Another day, another battery breakthrough.
this post was submitted on 04 Jul 2024
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Dry coated electrodes are pretty legit, and lots of manufacturers are starting to build up scaled manufacturing processes and tooling for it. It’s not a lab R&D thing anymore. This is going be a thing shortly.
This one is at the end of the R&D pipeline. Technology advances can take a good 10-20 years before they’re available in consumer products.
If you read the article, you can see that this isn’t a new research paper. It’s a company telling its consumers and investors when they plan to have production at scale.
Now imagine if companies were incentivized to share information like this...
When money is on the table, this will never happen
It's easy - rock up with a pile of money representing how much this break through is worth to you, if it's enough, they'll license it to you. Don't understand?
That's not sharing, that is selling
Just proposing a way to incentivise the sharing you wanted. If you want this kind of thing to be public domain so everyone can take advantage of it then the public needs to pay for the research to happen.
Manufacturing improvement for dry-coating the cathode and anode. Tesla currently dry coats the anode but not the cathode.
I think LG is a little disingenuous there calling themselves the leader.
Tesla is mass producing 10s of millions of cells with a dry coated anode and has plans to do the cathode as well (Edit and can in the lab just like LG)
LG says this is going to be for both in 2028 on a pilot line, as if they won't have their own problems at scale as well.
By 2028 what makes them think Tesla won't have both going as well, while they've yet to finish building the factory?
Is anyone else actually mass producing dry anodes yet other than Tesla?
So this just dropped today - https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-mass-production-dry-electrode-4680-cells-end-of-2024-report/
Tesla might start producing the dry cathode this year. Lets say they still have more troubles though and say sometime in 2025.
looks at calendar - Yep, that's before 2028!