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[-] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago
[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The pres can now assassinate a billionaire and take all their wealth for themselves as an official act, and be immune.

[-] [email protected] 124 points 2 days ago

Under this new standard, a president can go on a four-to-eight-year crime spree and then retire from public life, never to be held accountable.

Uhhh, that already happened.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Except for the whole retiring from public life part. I wish Trump would just retire from life entirely.

[-] [email protected] 70 points 2 days ago

Yeah, but now the Supreme Court said that's perfectly ok and totally legal.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago

Well, we've already had a president assassinate US citizens, so let's rev up those predators and go looking for whatever billionaire's yacht Coney Barret, Kavanuahh, and Roberts are chilling on

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

If you want to get a bit more cynical, you could very easily describe the deaths of Fred Hampton and the Freedom Summer murders as presidential assassinations. If you want to take the extra step down the rabbit hole, there's very real reason to suspect MLK was assassinated by the FBI.

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[-] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago

The President Can Now Legally Assassinate You, Officially if it Supports the SCOTUS Majority's Agenda

Anything Biden did would be determined to be "not official" by them because he's a Democrat.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The SCOTUS agenda is to collect maximum gratuities.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

And advance Christofascism.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

Sounds like a reason for Biden to set a whole bunch of legal precedent while he's still president.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

As I mentioned on another comment, there is no mechanism for the court to enforce that. The DOJ is under the President. Who will arrest the President? The SC may think this empowers them more, but it really does not.

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[-] [email protected] 156 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Sadly no. The way they turned it around was very clever.

So they said that only official presidential business is immune, but were ambiguous what that actually means, so inevitably they made it so it would go through them to determine what is the official business.

Second thing is that they picked up from their ass that Constitution also says that no official business can be used in any trial, even if it is unrelated. This not only jeopardizes all the indictments he had, it possibly will negate the New York trial.

trump already submitted request to have it referred based on this SCOTUS ruling.

This election might be the last free election we have. And even if trump loses it will still not be over.

Please vote and make your friends and family vote. And not just for president but also for the Congress.

Edit: I also recommend everyone a book "On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons From the Twentieth Century" (there's also reading on YouTube) all the warning signs are present. The more people are aware what it is at stake the higher chance that this can be stopped.

[-] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago

I also recommend everyone a book "On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons From the Twentieth Century"

In case it makes a difference to someone, it's a pretty short book.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago

Idk, one of the judges said this ruling made him a king. I'm going to take her word over your half-assed opinion. lol

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For all intents and purposes does. Just SCOTUS made itself as a final check on what is an official act and what isn't.

[-] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago

How does one prove whether or not something is official business if official business can't be used in any trial?

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I mean, I wouldn't mind the current President exercising this power over their political rivals, in the election, the House, the Senate, the Supreme Court, purely as a defensive measure to protect America. It sets a shitty precedence, but do we really want He Who Shall Not Be Named to set the precedence first?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

"It sets a shitty precedence.." is a gross minimalization to attach to effectively making the US be a dictatorship. And saying you're ok with a dictatorship because you happen to agree with the dictator is the kind of sentiment that cannot be left unchallenged/unexamined

[-] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

Right?

And it's incredibly short sighted.

So, in 4 years, will the next dictator be just as "good"? What about the next?

Also the whole "To save America" is literally the exact same reasoning used, and even believed, by the other side. It's circular at this point, one is better, but the other thinks THEY need to save America just as much.

It's a real fucked situation.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago

This election will be the final free and fair one. God help us all

[-] Naz 27 points 2 days ago
[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

To do a "well, actually" I guess we didn't really have an empire until well past the country's founding. We were a mostly irrelevant backwater for some period of time.

ETA: And as someone who freaking loves this country, I realize that saying a comment like the above is one that could probably get you into a fight two days from now, most especially, when all kinds of fetishistic performative military nonsense and uncritical screeds about this country are at peak ridiculousness (and I love July 4th in spite of these flaws). I consider myself a real patriot, but one that is unwilling to whitewash this country.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

No, the US has been an empire from the start. Unless you don't count conquering and colonizing the indigenous peoples because they aren't "civilized" or something.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

I don’t think most civilizations start out in their final form. They typically start much smaller and grow.

[-] Jyek 31 points 2 days ago

The president can also now legally dissolve the Supreme Court and instate a new supreme Court who can then make the decision if it was an official act or not.

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[-] [email protected] 76 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Would this same ruling have happened if Trump wasn’t involved? No, I don’t think so.

Stop the ~~steal~~ overthrow.

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[-] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago

It's settled law so not to worry, they can just change their minds later when it doesn't benefit their conservative bosses.

[-] [email protected] 73 points 2 days ago

I heard a good argument that while these justices are appointed for life to be judges, it doesn’t specify which branch. Reappointment them to a lower court and appoint new justices. They voted for this let them reap the consequences. Outline enforceable ethics standards.

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[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago

Welcome back to another episode of "Where's Humanity Going to Shit Next?", where we tackle the depressing consequences of the actions of the human race to our beloved planet Earth. This episode we visit the US once again, where the president decides he now has the power to kill you himself if he feels like it.

Join us next time to see where humanity is really gonna shit next.

[-] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Its more like, the president can assassinate you if it is in the interest of the USA and not for the personal interest of the president.

So if ellected, Trump can assassinate all political competition, Putin-style, legally, but not Stormy Daniels

[-] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago

Who's to say that maintaining the dignity of the office of President is not in the interest of the US? She is impugning his reputation therefore making him look weak which could embolden our enemies. She must disappear for the good of all Americans. It's not hard to justify just about anything as an official act in the interest of the US.

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[-] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago

Not according to the way they define "official act". If it involves presidential power, it's an official act.

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