With Bill and Donald, is the impeachment count the same, or are there others?
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Sure. They both benefit from the same situation. Both benefit from the weird electoral system the states have and they both benefit by being one of only two parties. Infact they are almost completely dependent on each other. Once Republican Democrat politicians realized they could get elected by getting people afraid of the opposition instead of excited for their candidate they've had this country voting for the lesser of two evils ever since. 🤷
Both options suck, but the Democrats are slightly better than the Republicans. They both get paid by the same people and they both push forward the same agenda. For example, probably the most left-wing policy we've had come out of our countries. Federal government in a long time is Obamacare. But Obamacare was actually thought up by a right-wing think tank called the heritage foundation. It's a Republican idea that works as bad as other Republican ideas but because it was put forward by a Democrat because who's going to defend it? The real solution is single-payer universal healthcare like any other non-backwards ass country has. But the Democrats being controlled opposition put Obamacare there instead.
Hope that helps you understand where other people are coming from. 👈😎 I find the short form memes like that used to strip away. Nuance and "trigger" those who disagree with you to be a very trumpet esque style of memeing.
You see the problem is that in a system where you only get two choices, you don't get to say both choices suck, because that is literarily helping the shitter side.
If you want to fix the system I'm all for it, but today, here, now, we are required to make a choice and the choice is crystal clear, one side is infinitely better than the other.
It's not close, it's not they both are not perfect, this shitty system we have requires us, as adults to vote for one or the other and the Republicans are batshit insane people that literally want to kill women and queer people.
This is not a matter of coke VS Pepsi, this is a brocoli VS steaming diarrhea.
I'm not going to vote for Trump. If my state were a swing state, I'd vote for Biden. I'm going to work on getting us a third option with my vote since im not in a swing state.
!you don't get to say both choices suck,!<
What's the point of this whole democracy thing if I can't even say my piece? Like what are we defending if we're just going to get in line and shut up anyway?
Anyways the two parties are still basically the same. We deserve an actual left wing party.
They aren't the same. They are bad in different ways. One side are corporate shills who are looking to depress the power of workers the other wants to kill blacks, lgbtqa+, Latinos and turn women into sex slave baby machines.
One is clearly worse and we should vote against them, but don't tell me the Democrats aren't bad.
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They both serve the rich first and foremost which is a critical issue for them to be "both sides" on. Yes, republicans are worse, but that doesn't make democrats good.
No party that "served the rich" would've even let people like Bernie into the party, let alone give them committee assignments and let them run for president on their ticket.
There's no point in arguing that the Democratic Party is entirely controlled by the rich other than to encourage political nihilism. It has always been possible and always will be possible to beat wins out of (or even change/become) the party establishment through concerted effort and activism, as happened in the 30s, the Civil Rights Era, and the purging of the Blue Dogs after the Civil Rights era.
Bernie's losses were disheartening, but abandoning any effort to sway the democrats and writing them off as "servants of the rich" when the decade before 2016 had been one of growing progressivism within the party and when Bernie unfortunately never even beat Hillary in a Dem Primary Poll, is the political equivalent of taking your ball and going home.
Bash on the DNC and NDC all you want, but until we replace them with progressives like was done to the segregationist dems or lose doing so, there's no point in writing off the Democratic Party.
That they fought harder to stop Bernie from getting the nomination twice than they ever fought against trump speaks volumes. Just because they allow progressives to do a few minimal things, doesn't mean the party does not serve the rich first and foremost. This is like how freedom of speech is allowed until it becomes a threat to the establishment (see pro-Palestinian protests that were shut down with bullshit excuses). When the possibility arose that Bernie could make actual significant change, the party threw a shitfit.
The democratic party will never be replaced with progressives because their donors won't allow it.
That they fought harder to stop Bernie from getting the nomination twice than they ever fought against trump speaks volumes.
I don't remember almost every single Democrat bashing Bernie publicly every single time they had the chance like most democrats did with Trump for the last 8 years. Are you not remembering the firestorm of statements from elected officials anytime Trump did something horrific?
The democratic party will never be replaced with progressives because their donors won't allow it.
I bet Malcom X and the Segregationist Democrats would've felt the exact same, and yet that last set of reactionary Dems has been completely purged from the party since the 60s.
Democrats bashed trump while helping him behind the scenes: https://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/
Speaking of which, they love funding fascists in general: https://www.vox.com/23274469/democrats-extremist-republicans-mastriano-cox-bailey
Meanwhile they actively attacked Bernie calling him old (which is funny to think about now) and mocking his supporters as "Bernie bros" as they pulled all the stops to prevent Bernie from getting the nomination. Democrats may call trump "dangerous" and his supporters "deplorable" but they do nothing to actually try to stop trump. They just offer up the most milquetoast of candidates as opposition, then shrug their shoulders with "at least he's not trump". It's like a bad wrestling skit.
Meanwhile they actively attacked Bernie calling him old (which is funny to think about now) and mocking his supporters as "Bernie bros" as they pulled all the stops to prevent Bernie from getting the nomination.
This is what a couple media pundits said yes, I don't think this is evidence that liberals secretly would rather have fascism however, for the same reason as I stated before, they spent almost every day of his presidency condemning him.
Democrats bashed trump while helping him behind the scenes: https://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/
Speaking of which, they love funding fascists in general: https://www.vox.com/23274469/democrats-extremist-republicans-mastriano-cox-bailey
Again, a few instances of some Democrats making stupid decisions and making a stupid tactical electoral decision, is not evidence that they prefer Trump to Bernie, or that they fought Bernie harder.
For every article you can provide of an out of touch media pundit saying something about Bernie, or a party strategist making a dumb decision around Trump, I can find 10 times that amount of Democrats condemning something Trump did.
The vast majority of liberal democrats criticizing Bernie cake during the two primaries, during which they were still criticizing Trump, and the majority of the non-primary time this past 8 years has been spent attacking Trump. Again, that doesn't sound like more effort against Bernie than Trump to me.
Since you asked...
Confederate Republicans are as confusing as communist Republicans.