A collection of reactions from the oil industry...
this post was submitted on 19 Jun 2024
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Wait wait wait, hold your horses. Do you mean to tell me, that the oil industry doesn't care for this protest, or any protest for that matter? I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you. It's almost as if this protest wasn't meant to impress the oil exec-types...
Almost like the protest isn't aimed at oil industry shills and instead at politicians.
"They are sensitive and they are completely covered in prehistoric markings which remain to be fully studied and any surface damage to the stones is hugely concerning.
“A rich garden of life has grow on the megaliths, an exceptional lichen garden has grown. So it’s potentially quite concerning.”
This is important - they aren't just a bunch of old rocks, they develop a "varnish" and an ecosystem that can protect them.
They say it's just cornflour and will wash off in the rain but people tend not to coat ancient monuments in cornflour, so we don't really know what the effect might be.
"They are sensitive and they are completely covered in prehistoric markings which remain to be fully studied and any surface damage to the stones is hugely concerning.
Bullshit. There is next to no other historic site that has been studied in greater detail. If no scientist up until now has created a detailed map of what is to find on those stones, then frankly, it's their own fault.
If anything, they should be concerned about acidic rain caused by air pollution. But you don't hear much about that, now do you?
Yeah. There's absolutely no way that they have not yet fully digitalized whatever is on them. And if they didn't, then they're huge fucking morons.
They’re going to be fucking annoyed when they’re told there’s no oil there.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it come out a while back that Just Stop Oil is actually bankrolled by some oil company and is essentially meant to create a false narrative against actual climate protestors? Am I misremembering?
They are funded by an organisation called Climate Organisation Fund of which is funded by someone called Aileen Getty who's family own Getty Oil.
Whether or not they are wanting to create a false narrative is questionable. I personally don't think so, but who knows...
Some rich person who doesn't like her family getting their money from oil and is trying to do something good instead is one if the people funding them afaik
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The Tories want to destroy Stonehenge to build a motorway so let's not pretend it's sacrosanct now
Is this hyperbole or literally true?
You might have to state your sources there.
I'm aware of the tunnel and at no point would it "destroy Stonehenge". There are concerns that construction might harm as yet undiscovered parts of the wider ritual landscape.
Oh so you DIDN'T want a source, you just wanted to argue about it?
I wanted a source that backed up what you said.
So you mean the Tories are also assholes? Tell me something I didn't know
the world feels like 75% assholes rn ngl
It's the same handful of obnoxious individuals over and over making it look like it's a majority.
That said, this thread started about Tories, and about half the population lean that way even if they don't vote for 'em...
Because defacing an ancient site has a clear connection to the environment... bunch of fucking self-centered attention-whores.
It's either this or ineffectual protests that get swept under the rug and ignored. You should be happy that their protest is purely cosmetic too.
Just Stop Oil said the orange powder paint was cornflour and it would "wash away with rain".
These dang protesters and their... *flips script* attention seeking! Can't they just do nothin like the rest of us?
But why Stonehenge? Why not oil company buildings? I believe oil companies generally have buildings. Large buildings. With their names on them.
Because that doesn't make the headlines.
Maybe we need to come up with a way to deface oil company buildings that does make headlines
Do what the French farmers do - back a muck-spreader up to the main doors and turn it on.
Out of interest. As I'm not a farmer. Do you know how I would go about buying and filling a muck spreader.
Plus Rishi Sunaks home address would be a totally unrelated useful fact to share.
Do you know how I would go about buying and filling a muck spreader.
You can hire one from any number of places, like here. I quite like the side discharge spreader for drive-bys as long as you knew the range.
To fill it try a pig farmer as they usually have large ponds of the stuff they want rid of - chicken shit or bull shit are also available for symbolic reasons.
Plus Rishi Sunaks home address would be a totally unrelated useful fact to share.
His home has already been vandalised as I assume the address is in the electoral register. I was quite surprised they got through security and I assume it's been tightened up since. Driving a large farm vehicle at the house seems quite a good way to get shot.
Because when a child wants the attention that you're not giving, it shits on your kitchen floor so that you have to pay attention.
Defacing random things that don't have any connect at all to what you're protesting only makes you look bad.
Yeah, it got attention. Bad attention.
Let's be real here. What could climate protesters do that wouldn't get them bad attention? History has shown: Nothing. There is nothing they could do that wouldn't get them bad attention. In Germany, they even got cussed out for blocking private jets.
Face it: The powerful do not fear retaliation from the masses if they vilify climate protesters. The protesters cannot win the PR battle. So all they have left is publicity stunts. And as far as publicity stunts go, plastering stones with water-soluble paint is about as tame as it gets.
The protesterscannot win the PR battle. So all they have left is publicity stunts.
Some will likely turn towards eco terrorism within the next years of continued inaction.
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False choice. Those aren't the only options. We're in a election season. Get out there and help convince the public to vote for people who will actually make a difference.
Making noise and demanding things is what children do.
Were I the "protest type", I'd be getting awfully creative with what can be done to the infrastructure of the things I was protesting. Big Oil? Would be a shame if the refineries were to suffer malfunctions... or the trucks/ships to suffer constant breakdowns...
But yeah, instead let's go fuck with something that has no relation and only serves to piss people off - but not in the way you want them pissed off.
refinery malfunctions truck/ship breakdowns
sounds like “how to get prescribed as a terrorist organisation 101”
Ah yes, let's commit industrial sabotage. That'll go swimmingly!
Would be a shame if the refineries were to suffer malfunctions… or the trucks/ships to suffer constant breakdowns…
I am surprised that people haven't taken How to Blow Up a Pipeline (book or film) as more of a guide. I presume, as the climate apocalypse intensifies, protestors might escalate.
I'm generally supportive of any and all forms of non-violent protest (by which I mean not harming human life), including these, but let's not pretend the choice is between "standing around with placards" and "vandalise random artwork & monuments". Blockading ports exporting coal is an excellent direct protest, or vandalising actual fossil fuel companies' property in such a way that disrupts their ability to do business. Heck, even the classic "block roads in peak hour" is better than this (just for the love of the gods, don't disrupt passenger trains or busways).
Don't get me wrong, this is still ok, and it's better than nothing at all, but there are more effective ways to protest.
well, at least nothing is reliable and free.
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This group undermine and delegitimise other climate activist groups by association
Hard disagree. As far as I'm aware, everything they've done so far is attention-grabbing and harmless. All the paintings were behind glass, and the stuff here is water soluble.
Disruptive protests help activists causes:
How? Is your support for not going extinct really contingent on your personal feelings about a particular activist group?
I disagree with their evaluation of the magnitude of climate change catastrophe affecting our lives. There isn't going to be a Day After Tomorrow "extinction event". Instead climate change is more insidious and will initially affect people who do not live in the West (as it is already doing). We are going to have global crises due to climate change but it's not going to be on the same level as, say, a Mutually Assured Destruction scenario with nuclear weapons.
They have also failed to convince the majority of the rest of the public that it will be an 'extinction event'. Since democracy has not got the result they want they are pursuing anti-democratic means of forcing their agenda onto news segments with stunts that poison the well for other - less extreme - climate change activists.
Disagree with their assessment all you like, but it's ridiculous to say a protest, especially a non-violent one, is anti-democratic. Democracy does not end at the ballot box, especially in a representative one.
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