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[–] [email protected] 193 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Honestly tho a dating site that's not incentivized to keep people on the dating site makes a lot of sense

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago

Right? Done properly and without profit motivating every decision it could be a good thing. I mean I'm sure someone will find a way to make it creepy and weird, but you never know.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

I would legit use it. For-profit dating sites suck

[–] [email protected] 97 points 5 months ago

The point of for profit dating apps isn’t to find you a date. It’s to have you engage with the service for as long as possible so they can make money off you.

If you find a long term relationship, they lose a customer.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I swear this is the plot to an anime/hentai.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

Literally was a Rick & Morty episode. Kinda.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

"The Time I Was Forced By The Government Into A Relationship With My Tsundere High-School Sweetheart"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

For once not an isekai

[–] SuddenDownpour 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago

Your efforts would be more sincere if you used complete sentences.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

It is when the matches aren't optional

[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"Please start fucking more" - Japanese govt to Japanese people

[–] [email protected] 64 points 5 months ago

But also work 16 hours a day and then go drinking afterwards.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

In some ways I can see this being potentially problematic, however...

For-profit dating apps (i.e. all dating apps) are shit.

Not only do they aggressively restrict a lot of basic features behind shockingly expensive paywalls, but they also mess around with the recommendation algorithm to make you feel like you feel like you have to get the premium tier in order to even be seen sometimes.

Plus they're literally incentivised to keep you on the app - not match you up with someone permanently. And once you've proven you're someone who's willing to pay, they really won't want to let you go.

A publicly-owned dating app shouldn't have these issues. Japan is incentivised to make good matches - they want to boost birthrates and curb the loneliness pandemic they're experiencing.

I just hope Japan is a country that takes privacy and security seriously.

E: btw I mean publicly owned as in owned by the Japanese public, not as in publicly traded.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] sugar_in_your_tea 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm disappointed that doesn't exist.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] sugar_in_your_tea 3 points 5 months ago

Now we're talking. ;)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

My rent costs me pretty much how much would it cost me to raise two kids. And wondering why people don't raise kids. Because life and rent became so expensive, it's literally impossible to rent and raise more than two kids on two average incomes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I can afford kids, but fuck making them live through this climate collapse we've created. I'll adopt if I really want a kid.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

but fuck making them live through this climate collapse we’ve created

Even if that's close enough to make them live through it - that's how you make a decision of not having kids when somebody thinking "climate collapse is cool, let's do it" makes a decision to have kids, naturally with such upbringing.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not having children to compete with other people. I don't want to be responsible for bringing a life into this world only to suffer as crops fail and wars for resources rage.

In America, school teachers are paid shit wages, and guns are everywhere. Quality of life is decreasing as wages stagnate, the rich get richer, and democracy slowly turns into fascism. The oceans are getting hot enough to kill the fish, and they keep getting hotter. Microplastics are literally everywhere, and we're still learning how bad that is.

We've already passed the Paris Climate Accord global warming limit, and the yearly global greenhouse gas emissions are still increasing to record levels. 1.5C of warming was supposed to be the doomsday limit, but now they say 2C isn't that bad? The moving target for the global warming limit is a joke, and the poor and impoverished are the punchline.

Sure, I get the urge to have children, but I've already gone through the 7 stages of grief myself about it.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Since bronze age and till now most humans having children knew they would suffer.

Having a life is better than not existing in the first place.

And don't worry, it's a self-regulating system and you are on the opposite end of humanity in the sense of being the material for that regulation.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Having a life is better than not existing in the first place

I guess that anyone that has an opinion in this matter is highly biased

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Nah I exist and I really do have the opposite opinion.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

True. One doesn't have to explain their choice in having children to others anyway.

It just feels strange, to have an opportunity to give a child a better life than most of the people on the globe can, to want children, and to choose against.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

True. One doesn’t have to explain their choice in having children to others anyway.

I don't think I'd be a good parent so I decided to not have children. I'm in my forties so this is unlikely to change

It just feels strange, to have an opportunity to give a child a better life than most of the people on the globe can, to want children, and to choose against.

The future is bound to suck a lot, so I can understand people who think like that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Based and true

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

Old Japanese men in government positions cannot, and will not fix this.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

Plot twist, it was never about increasing births but about generating data sets

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Yes finally people get it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

It's the lesser of two evils vs. for-profit dating apps.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

this can be a good thing... for japan (here in orbanistan it would be just another govermental scam, public money sewer :D ). I think the non free dating apps should be handled as scam, by the laws too, because those are really scams.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I didn't know there *were government-run dating apps. Something I can research about. But this is coming from a u.s perspective. So in other countries, this might be common knowledge within their territory I understand that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

they want people to procreate

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I imagine data security and what the government would know is putting some off. It is part of the reason the national ID (My Number) faltered.

Off the top of my head, and I'm sure there are more, people use: tinder, bumble, Pairs, Zwei, Zekushi, and probably more. Pairs and Zwei, at least, are geared toward long-term and marriage. Pairs had a very bad UX and, of course, a cost. I did meet some people on there, but nothing lasted (one nearly did, but I wasn't doing another LTR with a barely-functional alcoholic that otherwise was a great match).