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For the metrically inclined:

40 inches = 1.016 meters

25 yards = 22.85 meters

40 yards = 36.576 meters

1 inches = 0.0254 meters or 2.54 centimeters

1 yard = 0.9144 meters

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Sorry I don't know anything about guns, but is this the barrel getting smaller right at the end? What would happen if you were to fire a solid slug?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nothing good. It would damage the choke and possibly banana peel the barrel.

Chokes are removable, and it would be advised to remove them for shooting a slug.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not all chokes are removeable. If you do have a modular choke you'll damage your gun faster firing without a choke tube in place faster than by firing slugs through a full choke. They make thin wall choke tubes if you want to have an open choke with a modular choke system. From my admittedly 2nd hand knowledge rifled slugs through full choke is safe, but generally inaccurate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Yup, I have shot slugs from choked barrels on many occasions and it works just fine. Some shotguns shoot rifled slugs a little better with a modified choke than a cylinder choke.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Yes they get a bit smaller at the end to reduce the spread.

Bullets are quite malleable and it’s normal for them to deform a bit during firing. Bullets for non-shotguns typically get forced down a bit in the forcing cone before being deformed to fit the grooves in the rifling.

“Rifled” lead shotgun slugs have these grooves around the outside that allow them to deform down to a smaller diameter. You can shoot them through a choked shotgun barrel just fine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Brother do you sig fig?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What shot size though? Or doesn't it really matter, more just a difference in the spread within the spread and a difference in strength of impact?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The particular combination of barrel and shot matters. Even different brands of similar shot, or different shotguns of the same make/model, can have differences.

The chart above is just a general guideline, it’s often recommended to pattern your specific combination to know firsthand how it performs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I've got a pretty decent feel for what I use, but haven't ever put it on a target, but I guess I was trying to point out that the chart is somewhat arbitrary without listing a common shot size

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Would the spread with the cylinder choke also be indicative of the accuracy of a muzzle loading smooth bore musket?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

To a degree yes, for that you'd ideally want a uniform barrel. But then again you don't have rifling, so you're already not on a great foot.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Not having standardized decimal indicators in maths really took me for a ride.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Agreed! It's confusing when most of the world uses "," as a decimal indicated but some countries use "." for that.

[–] Ookami38 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is your existence just to complain about insignificant things in otherwise interesting content? Sounds miserable.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah that would sound miserable. Kinda didn't complain tho just pointed it out bc I first read it as 1016m. See to complain I would need to explicitly say I am unhappy or that this would need to change. I just pointed out that due to me having a different understanding of decimal indication I was confused for a second.

You know what would be miserable tho? Misinterpreting a comment and then jumping to a conclusion about another person's happiness. Go out. Touch some grass. Think about why you so quickly came to such a negative conclusion. Get happy. ✌️

[–] Ookami38 -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's definitely not just for the one comment rofl. It's a special kind of person to make two top-level posts complaining about a meme.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

You must know.