A Dying Empire Lead by Terrible People : usauthoritarianism

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Just a picture of a headline? No article, link, or source? Let me guess the article doesn't say what the headline says.

Edit read the article. The source material is real, but it is clearly an opinion piece that is not being disclosed as one.

All it really say is that people under 30 feel that the government is at best is ignoring their needs or at worst actively subverting their needs. This reads like some just who just found out what NWA lyrics were.

Oh the author is the DC bureau chief for The Nation. Not sure the exact relevance of that, but it seem important to know.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Here’s the article. I’ll leave it to you to decide if it matches the headline:

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/democratic-war-young-people-poll/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Thanks

[+] [email protected] -27 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Let me guess, you think any criticism of your team/country is a foreign psyops "to divide" and being pedant and using ad-hominem makes you feel better about yourself?

Not the same article but yeah, you're never going to be convinced anyway.

https://www.semafor.com/article/05/28/2024/a-dying-empire-led-by-bad-people-poll-finds-young-voters-despairing-over-us-politics

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Except the article doesn't have the picture you chose.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think they used any ad hominem. They were complaining about there not being a source. Reasonable

They were skeptical about the real source. Reasonable.

It's good to limit your exposure to lies online. I do it by looking for sources.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I didn't, person doesn't know what ad hominem means. Especially when they called me pedantic. I guess it is okay for them to do...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Convinced of what exactly? Convinced that there was a poll? Convinced of the results of the poll? Or convinced that article the OP posted is anything other then a option piece?

Weirdly I never thought this was "foreign pysops" as you put it. Now I can't say the same about you. Lemme.mil is full of tankies, who love to criticize the western world. As they deny Tiananmen Square or Soviet gulags.

By the way I don't think ad hominem means what you think it means. Though I don't think you will ever be convinced of that.

I don't care who is writing the article, were it was published, or what it says. Being able to think critically about the content is the important thing. Not what someone says my opinion should be. They only way to avoid group think is to be able to look objectively at something.

This was clearly an option peice being passed as news. Are you ever going to be convinced of that?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

OK, what's the authoritarian connection? Yep democrats aren't great. They can be corrupt. They won't close their own insider trading loophole. Some states with effectively no Republicans have single party corruption.

How is this authoritarianism?

[–] the_crotch 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nearly all of the really bad, authoritarian legislation of the last 30 years, patriot act, sopa, kopa, etc, were bipartisan

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because when authoritarian legislation isn't bipartisan it's the Republicans trying to pass it and the Democrats stopping them.

[–] the_crotch 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So they're both authoritarian and disagree on the implementation

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

All government is authoritarian to some degree by definition. Cut the both sides shit. You're comparing a paper cut to a bullet wound.

[–] the_crotch 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm comparing an authoritarian center right party to an authoritarian far right party. It's not shit, it's accurate, and hand waving horrible laws like the patriot act with "all countries are authoritarian to some degree" is how you end up with more legislation just like it. The Democrats aren't going to save you. They're just going to take the back roads on the way to fuck you.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

The Democrats are the only chance we have to change the system without violence. They are actually receptive to things like ranked choice voting and independent redistricting. If the Republicans have their way with this country, the only way out is with millions dead in a revolution.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

what are the policy differences between a Republican from 40 years ago and a Democrat today?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Wanna know how I can tell you aren't black or gay?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

I don't think the article goes into any of this. Yes democrats did support those legislations. But the featured article is about youth disenchantment about democrats corruption. Not those laws.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I love shitting on how the Democrats are bad as much as the next leftist, but this is both low effort and off topic.

[+] Bakkoda -26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Careful people. Any criticism of Biden means you are saying both sides are just as bad and/or shouting Russian propaganda.

Edited the better gender inclusivity.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

You'll find plenty of criticism of Biden in the comment history of most of the people you're targeting with this comment. People get tired of the logical fallacy type arguments you're suggesting. Hence the downvotes/lumping in with bots.

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