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[–] [email protected] 129 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Let's hope it's not the last one...

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 6 months ago (7 children)

It really is hard to put Republican assholery on a scale of "worst in our lifetime".

GWB got us in multiple multiple decade long wars.

Mitt Romney or Dick Cheney might have turned the great recession into another great depression.

Trump nearly got us into another full blown recession, got rid of Roe V Wade, tried to overturn Democracy, and nearly got us into a war with Iran.

Trump this time around will try to overturn Democracy again, might bring back the full blown recession we almost had, will let Russia steamroll Ukraine, will support Israel harder than any US president, etc. etc.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You forgot the grandfather of assholery, Ronald Regan. 90 % of the fuckery today can be linked back to that piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It goes back before that, when Boothe killed Lincoln and reconstruction failed and we let the south keep southing it got fucked.

Nixon recognized it and used it to get elected, and Reagan got the economy fucking us, and Bush 2 profited from starting wars on surpluses from the previous administration. Then trump wasted Obama’s hard work on the economy with tax cuts and shit handling of a pandemic.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

But it's fearmongering, and you AREN'T going to scare THESE ubermensch with your dastardly threats of "Literally what the opposition has promised to do"! That's what WEAK people fall for.

Or something like that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

I saaaay we stop being nice and start working together. These two things are the big problems of the left.

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 6 months ago (6 children)

It's like all those "heat records" that supposedly "proves" that climate is "changing".

Every single month they keep getting broken, sheesh!

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It looks like a conspiracy if you ask me - all those "scientists" with their... "facts"! Everyone saying the same thing all the time - it sure sounds like they are pushing an agenda to me! What if I don't want to be educated though - did they ever stop to think about that, hrm!?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Like, are we to believe it's purely coincidence that the scientists are making these claims AT THE SAME TIME as the graphs are showing heat levels rising? seems like they're just cashing in on a good grift! We all know how scientists are about money making schemes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (3 children)

All that "I want to eat food", "I want food for my family", "that's not enough food I want more food" nonsense! Why don't they just eat the climate like Zeus intended?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How dare you provide "scientific" proofs? What do you think this is, a logical discussion?? I need someone to yell the facts at me, that way they'll sink in more better

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Okay then... how's this?

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It must be a cyber Greta /s 🤣

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And they aren't wrong. Every current election is the most important of your life. Not just presidential. If you choose not to participate intelligently. And loose access or rights as a result. You will likely never get them back.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, no, this time they're going to SHOW the mean ol' democrats by voting third party. When the opposition, consisting of literal fascists who tried an autocoup the last time they were in power, ensures they never have a say again, it won't bother them a single goddamn bit.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Just because they've said this 3 elections in a row doesn't mean it hasn't been true each time.

The problem is that fascism keeps gaining territory, and eventually it will be the last election you get to vote in.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Yeah the problem is if you want to actually win you can't just keep saying it's the most important election and you have to vote for us or else over and over again. People will get desensitized eventually and stop caring and then the fascists will win. You have to do good things that make people want to vote for you and judging by public opinion Biden has not been doing the best at that. (This isn't how I feel, I'm still gonna vote for him to stop Trump and I think people should vote for Biden. I'm just saying why average people who aren't this dialed into politics aren't gonna keep voting and that will be the downfall of Biden.)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

They keep wanting their voters to feel that way, while apparently not being bothered enough to do something about it themselves. Like, are we supposed to believe that this election could plunge the US into 1000 years of darkness, but at the same time we absolutely cannot stop supporting a genocide halfway across the world, even if that may well make the difference in the election?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

they’ve said this 3 elections in a row

You don't think anyone was saying it in 2008 or 2004 or 1996 or 1984? Nevermind the off-years, the municipal elections, the special elections, the judicial elections, the time when your favorite politician is on a singing show...

The problem is that fascism keeps gaining territory

Isn't it curious that Democrats can hold every branch of the federal government in 2008 only to watch fascism grow out of control on their watch? And then, by 2016, the cancer is everywhere, so we need to vote them all out. But the people we're voting for won't do a fucking thing to keep ACB off the bench for three months. So there goes the Courts. And then they've got Congressional majorities and the Presidency in 2021, but... oops, again! Can't prosecute Trump. Can't prosecute DeSantis. Can't prosecute Ken Paxton. Can't even prosecute Rudy fucking Guiliani.

And now we're back in 2024, begging for votes, because we need one more shot to do our fucking jobs, please, please, PLEASE, just one more vote, we promise this time it'll be different!

Only this time, we're sending 2000 lb bunker busters to Israel so they can slaughter Palestinians, while our candidate of choice is getting up in front of college crowds to tell them that any kind of protest is an illegal form of antisemitism. And the entire pitch for the Presidency this time around appears to be "If you don't vote for me, the wealthiest people in the country will hit the big Heat Up The Planet button until we all bake to death (but even if you do they still might)".

Cool cool cool. Love democracy.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What Republicans realized decades ago is this is fundamentally true. Every election is the most important election. They just leave off the "...so far" that should be at the end of the statement.

I think before Reagan (or maybe Gingrich) people could reasonably see some elections as less consequential than others. But the Republicans realized that it's all about building. Build a bench of charismatic, intelligent, possibly sociopathic individuals. Get them in local government and then state government and then federal government. Tell your base voters that you're building something that will one day pay off.

Just keep building, just keep building, and one day you have a juggernaut. Especially if your opponents didn't build to match.

Democrats spent the 80s and 90s assuming the status was quo. They spent the last half of the 90s and the 00s living in the fantasy that what people liked about Clinton was the fiscal conservatism without the religion, so they should be more conservative.

Only very recently have progressives started breaking through.

Now we have to build.

Luckily the Republicans have hitched their wagon to a human wrecking ball. That might let Democrats catch up sooner than they otherwise would.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Democrats spent the 80s and 90s assuming the status was quo.

This was the Golden Age for liberalism. It was the age after the bountiful 80's, but before the communication age started shining light into all the dark corners of our society. People could live in blissful ignorance of societal problems as the just fed and fed from a growing housing bubble.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean, you totally forgot how 9/11 changed our ENTIRE outlook on the world.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)

archcomrade

What's the chances this isn't a tankie?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

the most important election of your lifetime was the one that didn't land us here

ship's sailed, bitches

I'd go so far as to say it was bush v gore but it doesn't fuckin matter now; mighta been whoever lost to reagan's fault, him and thatcher really fucked everything up

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

I’d go so far as to say it was bush v gore

That election was decided 5 to 4.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

I mean this one it is actually true.

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