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[–] [email protected] 105 points 4 months ago

That's a BS headline made to scare people. The article boils down to "Russia theoretically has the capabilities to attack, but don't because they know the West will be angry".

[–] Aurenkin 103 points 4 months ago (22 children)

Given the success of the 3 day invasion I'm sure NATO is terrified.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Im sure the Poles and the Fins would absolutely love it if he tried.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s all fucked.

Russia fucks around until someone deems them worthy of finding out. Sure, it seems fun when U.S. pilots are cranking up the AC/DC and doing their hero walk on the way to wipe every single Russian airbase and fuel depot off the map, but then half of the west’s water systems, electrical grids, and networking infrastructure gets hacked and severely damaged/bricked. Russia gets hacked and grinds to a standstill. China takes advantage of the chaos and invades Taiwan. The U.S. bombs the chip fabs in Taiwan into powder, and anti-satellite operations trigger the Kessler syndrome. Maybe some of the other regional conflicts pop off, too.

The bright side is that assuming no nukes fly, we’ll see earth’s habitability improve for a while, once people starve and consumption/ability to produce goes way down.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I'm half convinced Putin wants NATO to get directly involved so that he can pull out of Ukraine and be like "We didn't lose to Ukraine, it was the West who once again oppresses poor little Russia"

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If that's what he really wants, then I'm sure it could be arranged and nobody needs to get nuked. But it probably isn't.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm not so sure NATO wants to play directly into Putin's anti-West narrative.

Also why would anybody get nuked lol

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not so sure NATO wants to play directly into Putin's anti-West narrative.

They might give Putin that in return for his retreat from Ukraine. That would be the "arrangement". But again, I don't really believe it.

Also why would anybody get nuked lol

That's what Putin keeps threatening if NATO gets involved.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

He warned about nukes if the west sent artillery, and then when they sent tanks and again over HIMARS, and guess what the threat was about sending jets?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

If that's what is necessary let's go

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I bet that will be his playbook if Joe Biden retains the White House.

If Trump returns to the White House, Putin will get a punch card for every NATO state he annexes—for every sixth country he conquers, he’ll get a genocide “free-pass”.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

for every sixth country he conquers, he’ll get a genocide “free-pass”.

The fine print will read: may be used on past genocides to obtain this card.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Russia can't even succeed against Ukraine. What makes him think he has a chance in hell against the combined power of NATO? Hell, man, I'm pretty sure the USA alone would make quick work of Russia in an all out war.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

I'm sure Poland alone can take on Russia at this point.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Assuming it doesn't result in a nuclear war. Both nations have enough nukes to wipe all life off the face of the earth.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've been saying this for a long while, but Russia's every move seems to indicate desperation.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Desperate to leave a legacy.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

"Stalin was an amateur. 28 million, here we come!" --putin, probably

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago

Russia has claimed it's going to attack a NATO country since before the Ukrainian war started. They like to say it every now and then, just to remind us that they exist and North Eastern Europe is not just an unpopulated wasteland.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Jarosław Stróżyk said Putin is in a position where he could begin planning a small-scale invasion but is holding back due to the West's response to the attack in Ukraine.

"Putin is certainly already prepared for some mini-operation against one of the Baltic countries, for example, to enter the famous Narva [municipality in Estonia] or to land on one of the Swedish islands," Mr Stróżyk told Polish paper Dziennik Gazeta Prawna.

Tl;dr - We think that Putin has the capability to mount a small scale invasion, but isn’t doing it because of NATO’s potential response. But if we assume he really wants to, then he will.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

They are not going to get a quarter mile into the EU (that's 0.4 km for you Euros). NATO doesn't need to march a bunch of missiles through the streets to feel tough. They keep them ready to go at the airbase.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Putin could put his cock in a hornet nest and jiggle it about, but would he?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Best NATO sales rep ever.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I kinda doubt even he thinks that’s a good idea. Unless he’s truly delusional.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That suggests his recent actions haven't been delusional?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Your argument has a strong essential basis for validity.

[–] carpelbridgesyndrome 22 points 4 months ago

The majority of his army is bogged down in Ukraine. I have doubts about their readyness

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

He's not winning on 1 front, now he wants to add another?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

This sounds like possible intelligence, based on the hawkish tone of france lately; europe has its best interests in going full article 5 if this happens.

Unfortunately it would never happen before jan 7 and a tragic election.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

They barely have the manpower to push forward even in Ukraine. Then again if they ever want to do it now is the time because in a few decades they're not going to have enough fighting age men. I just really doubt this. If the current war has taught us anything it's that they would get absolutely obliterated by Nato and there are no winners in a nuclear exchange. Also them using nukes in Ukraine/Europe would mean nuking themselves too because that's the direction wind is going to push the fallout. Though that assumes they would care about their civilian population which they clearly don't.

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