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Ukraine wiped out 100 Russian troops at once in a strike showcasing the range and power of its new US ATACMS
(www.businessinsider.com)
I read ATACMS as Attack 'Ems
this post was submitted on 03 May 2024
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War is hell, at this rate Russians would have suffered less losses from forcefully removing Putin.
I'm still amazed that Prigozhen lasted as long as he did after playing chicken with Putin like that...I don't think things would have gotten materially better if he'd finished his march but it's hard to imagine it getting worse (at least outside of Russia).
i'm amazed Prigozhin wasn't wise enough to take extreme precautions after meddling with someone like Putin.
Turning around and marching toward Moscow should have been an obvious point of no return. Either he was going to die, or Putin was, no exceptions.
He likely viewed his march to be against Shoigu and not Putin. An obvious mistake in hindsight.
He should have had his "soft" targets better protected. Russia has a long tradition punishing the families of those that oppose them.
Uh-oh. Russia might be running out of ~~prisoners~~... ~~forced conscripts~~... patriotic warriors.
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I really hope we’re giving them Block 1A or later, because those have a max range of 170-186 miles, which is juuuuuust enough to reach the Kerch bridge from behind the front of battle.
Trying to demolish a capital structure like a bridge with rockets would be incredibly wasteful, they're better spent for precision strikes on ammo depots, airports, vehicle storage, etc. The payload of the long-range ATACMS is only 214kg, somewhat on par with the FAB-500 bomb, which carries around 200kg with stated TNT equivalent of about 300kg. The truck explosion on that bridge last year was estimated at around 10 tons TNT equivalent, it barely shifted a couple slabs, and was fixed within weeks.
Using sea drones to take out supports might be a better idea, they're at least considerably cheaper.
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Is this actually is a good use of the ATACMS? I mean 100 troop isn't nothing, but oil refineries or, plane hangers, or tank garages, I think would be better suited for their use. Anybody have additional information on their usage?
Do you realize how much effort and resources are expended in raising and training 100 human beings? That's thousands of rounds of ammo not being shot at Ukrainian soldiers, because dead men carry no guns, operate no equipment and don't pass on their experience to new soldiers.
It's all around horrible what's going on, but 100 soldiers are no laughing matter. Robotyne was defended by 4 soldiers at one point some weeks ago. Russia has been trying to retake that village since they lost it last year.
I'm not convinced that Russia raises and trains.
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The U.S. doesn’t allow Ukraine to use U.S. weapons inside Russian territory. England apparently does now but I don’t know if anyone else does. (That’s why Ukraine-built drones are used to attack oil refineries and the like.)
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The soldiers would have been out of reach of Ukraine's shorter-range ATACMS missiles
Shorter-range ATACMS still have a range of 165km (103 miles), why would a position 50 miles behind the front lines be unreachable for them? It's likely that Ukraine is currently expending their existing stock now that they know more is coming.
They also have to keep their launchers at a safe enough distance from Russian weapon systems...so 50 miles behind Russian lines is likely at least 100 miles from the target...right at the edge of the range you mentioned.
Call them attack 'ems, used to attack 'em.
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