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[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Yeah no shit. Every major power is trying to influence their rivals' elections, it's the most cost effective way to try and destabilize a country like the U.S. or China. What's more interesting is which side they're interfering for. We know the Republicans are firmly in Moscow's pocket, we know that Trump considers China an enemy, but that doesn't necessarily mean China wants a Democrat either. It could be that the geopolitical gains China made during Trump's administration outweighed all the trade war tariff nonsense, and they want the idiot to drag us further backwards so they can expand their hegemony.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

China's funneled almost as much money into Donnie's pockets as Russia. He's also not keen on maintaining alliances with Japan and South Korea. It's an easy choice for them.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

I think this might be the answer. An isolationist US won't mind an attack on Taiwan. Very clever.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This article basically just repeats my speculation in significantly more detail. Sure Trump said the words "I love China," but the man is a pathological liar who started a trade war with China after saying that and plans to start another one if elected. In his own special way, he even recognizes that the Chinese hegemony is slowly replacing the American one with his rambling on the yuan. They're certainly not friends, and the article's conclusion just indicates that the author thinks Beijing wants a useful idiot.

[–] thatKamGuy 6 points 7 months ago

Trump’s anti-China stance is largely performative, and mostly self-defeating; think domestic tariffs etc.

Sure, that may hurt China’s export potential to the US - but it’s a price the CCP is gambling would pay off in the long-term as Trump’s isolationist stance would weaken regional allies spheres of influence, and provide China the ability to step in and fill the vacuum (best case) or further invade territories they deem theirs (Taiwan, islands within the 9 dashes - worst case).

In situations like this, it’s very much better to side with the devil you know.

[–] gravitas_deficiency 2 points 7 months ago

The CCP just hasn’t offered Trump a large enough quantity of money yet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I think they're pro-delegitimizing. After that... I'm curious too.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

It's cute when the US accuses countries of interfering with elections like they're protecting their world record or something

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Oh shit. Such a edgy comment buddy. Now tell me, what elections does China has for the US to be meddling wih?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

They f****** over Pakistan's elections just a few months ago, USA is the king of ruining functioning governments anywhere in the world.

CIA straight up admitted they failed to gain an operational foothold in China like they did everywhere else which is why they never have a solid grasp on what China's next move will be. Not to mention the CCP makes arrests like monthly on people they believe or accuse of having connections to the CIA.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Proof read your shit bruv.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I think the point is that the US wanders the world (apart from China), election-meddling and influencing and coup-ing, and then all of a sudden when it happens to us it's some kind of pearl clutching emergency and crime.

To be clear, I don't think we should be doing it to other countries, and I don't think they should be doing it to us. And I think the prospect of another Trump presidency would be so catastrophic for people the world over that it's worth resisting election interference on his behalf, even if you have no particular love for the US and its little adventures on the global stage. But certainly the US State Department getting upset that someone's influencing our democracy, even though we don't want them to, can be met with a certain amount of pure derisive laughter.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But hasn’t seen anything wrong with Israel, hmmm

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

They're still asking Israel to investigate themselves.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Show us then.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I'm sure the same government that uncritically swallows every lie Israel has pushed to further their genocide is exactly who we should trust to vet this intel

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

@mozz the hypocrisy is astounding. The USA has been interfering in elections for the year dot.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

He has to pay a price. Washington should embolden Turkish opposition leaders to be able to take on and defeat Erdogan.

Oh shit that was an inside thought, not a lay out to the press what we’re planning to do type thought.

Not by a coup, not by a coup, but by the electoral process.

Whew. Saved it. That was a close one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Sounds awfully similar to "devote Imran Khan from PM and arrest his party, but uh don't kill him because that would be a coup"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

They only do this on days that end in y. Oh, and we already knew this. We're just here to let you know we've always been at war with Eastasia.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

"The Asian autocrats are taking over!" - local autocrats possibly

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