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[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Am I too European / social health care to understand? /s

In all seriousness, as a European it's unimaginable to force myself to work for a week, just to get everyone else sick and cause way more loss than if I had just stayed home...

Unless you're self employed, then you might be fucked.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This! My HR guy (he isn't exactly a manager or boss) even encourages sick days for mental health or if you're just feeling a bit iffy. The gain in productivity and happiness is actually worth it for the company. Plus part of the pay for sick days is actually covered by health insurance afaik, so financially it's not really a problem for the employer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

At least here in germany, the employer is fully reimbursed for the pay of sick days. Although, if you are sick for more than 6 weeks, your employer stops paying altogether and the insurance directly pays you about 70-90% of your regular pay.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (4 children)

You can't stay at home when you're sick?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean depends on the job, but won't they even allow Homeoffice then?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They're pretty clearly wage slave posting bro. Most positions like that will be hourly and dependant on being in a store or factory/warehouse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Who says you can't be a wageslave in the Homeoffice too? Remember those Wow gold miners? :D

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I can, I just lose my pay

Land of the free baybeeeee

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I just don't understand how that helps company revenue when you infect more people?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They assume the lost revenue due to people pretending to be sick is less than the lost revenue due to people actually being sick and trying to work.

Also, management tends to be older people who think working more hours is more betterer. My boss works from 7a-6p with no lunch, 5 days a week. Sometimes he comes in early on top of that.

He's salaried. He isn't making any extra and usually doesn't have anything to do for several hours in the middle of the day. There is literally no reason for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There is literally no reason for it.

Did you met his SO?!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

He is unmarried lol.

I'm told he went through a divorce at the beginning of the pandemic though. We briefly discussed making nonessential workers unable to go to work here by law, his idea was to love in the office 3 days a week.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Well they aren’t punishing you, you see. The system is set up to put the power into the hands of the employee. They can make the independent choice of whether to not get paid or to work while sick & risk forcing others into this same choice!

/s

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't till recently that I got a job with sick days. I'm in Canada too, so you'd think we'd have it better but we don't. Many jobs, they won't fire you for staying home when you're sick, but they won't pay you either, and to most people, losing even a day's pay is unaffordable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Sick days? What is this lol. Did they even do this during Covid?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Yep. And they will do it during the next pandemic as well

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

If you are lucky like me, home is the office. But you also get to work sick days too :(

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I think I'llI stay in bed and call HR before 9.

I feel sorry for you though, I hope you get well soon.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Side note I feel like literally the only time of year I get sick is start of spring, and I'm not allergic.