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[-] [email protected] 57 points 2 months ago

Spoiler alert, it's providing housing and health care.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

What a novel concept! Now that this has been discovered, do you think other countries will do the same? ;)

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

America does! You just need to commit a crime first....

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Oof. That one came unexpexted.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Being homeless is effectively a crime in many jurisdictions, so...

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

So, can I just go to Finland and be not homeless? what is the limitation to their hospitality?

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

The article addresses immigration if that's what you're alluding to.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Not really. It mentions that Finland is a very low immigration country, but it doesn't state whether the benefits apply to migrants, legal or illegal

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

They don't afaik unless you're a legal immigrant. If you're ilegal they will try to get you home.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Shouldn't that be the default everywhere though?

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I wish. Socialized health care (including mental health and addiction recovery) would solve so many problems in the U.S.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

That's socialism though. Wouldn't want to help people.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Solely going off the thumbnail, they're using the homeless as desks, terrible desks tho.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The only homeless people in Finland are so for their own will. I've never in my life seen a homeless person sleeping on the street.

Also our country is in massive debt because running a wellfare state is expensive as hell. So there's also that.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Don't worry too much about the debt, Canada has loads of debt and we are letting our politicians dismantle healthcare and education while homes are unaffordable and there are massive homeless encampments in pretty much every city/town. But voters are apathetic or don't understand anything about our political system so it only gets worse

I think America has the largest debt in the world and they don't even have public healthcare (and also loads of homeless)

So having some debt but actually getting public services is really putting you ahead of most of the world!

Not saying you shouldn't worry about expenses/value, but countries carrying debt is normal

here's an example of Canada

may as well include the US as well

You seem to get pretty good value for your debt! Want to send some of your politicians over to North America pls

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The program is also beneficial from an economic point of view, says Kahila. Since the beginning of the program, Housing First has found an apartment for 60 percent of Finland’s homeless population. Since 2012, the state has calculated that it has saved almost 32 million euros annually as a result, with most of that savings coming in the healthcare sector. "Hardly any other country can present such positive statistics," says Kahila.

Unless you're against universal healthcare, this doesn't seem to be costing the state money.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

This may be presented that way in mass media, and also it saves money long-term, which is usually overlooked when (in-) convenient

I'm not saying Thorny_Insight argued out of bad faith, rather that they may be affected by what they hear about their country

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah, not accusing him of bad faith, just guessing he didn't read the article.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I haven't finished it yet, too, tbf

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Oh look another Orpo stooge pretending Finland's debt is the problem while the government's austerity cuts make the country's economy worse.

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