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[–] [email protected] 77 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Big coincidence all the red is in red states and counties. Hrmmmmm...

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 months ago (4 children)

This is because the higher values are denoted by a redder color, causing the states with the most red to be red in appearance

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Thanks for breaking it down, doctor

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah but this doesn't explain the urine colored states.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Overlay with the poorest and least educated and you may find even more surprising 'coincidences'!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

better red and dead, apparently...

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago

And how many times have the Republicans tried to abolish that program?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I live in Minnesota and I have health insurance through my employer and I do not qualify for this program. It costs me over $200 just to walk in the door of the clinic. I recently had to get a CT scan and it cost me $1800. A fucking covid test cost $135, even though the state will mail them to me for free.

I don't make that much money. I can barely afford these bills. I'm a proud Minnesotan, but this post makes it seem like our healthcare is so much better than every other state, and I'm here to tell you that it most definitely is not

[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Turns out "better health care" is a pretty low bar in the US.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Pretty low is an understatement. It's buried 10 feet deep.

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[–] Grilipper54 15 points 4 months ago

This is more a problem with your employers health insurance. Yes Minnesota healthcare is not perfect but if you're very low income, it's better than other states. MNsure certainly helped me a bit and provided free healthcare for awhile.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

So the bar was under the ground and it seems that Minnesota raised the bar to about 2 inches above ground. Not great, but better.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Yeah, that was my experience with employer-run healthcare in general before I left to start my own business. I was paying $200 monthly for a terrible, high-copay situation like that from my last employer when I broke my knee. My friend with zero insurance had the same injury so I went to his doctor and surgeon. Afterwords we compared our total bills and mine was barely any less than his cash-only bill. I felt robbed.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Honestly all the NE states look pretty good.

Except Maine... Wtf Maine.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Maine is New England's Alabama.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'd always heard New Hampshire referred to as "the south of the north," but on this map, at least, it looks downright heavenly compared to Maine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Poor people can’t afford housing in NH, so they go to Maine. Or die.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think they're more like Pennsylvania or upstate NY. New Hampshire on the other hand... 👀

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I think they're more like Maine, personally

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Maine is rural and it feels like it's sometimes trending libertarian at times.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Maine has the oldest demographic of any state and a median income significantly lower than any other nearby state.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago

Spread the news!

It could start at the county level and move its way up.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But the government is literally incapable of ever doing anything right! We made sure of it! How is this possible!!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

No this is a failure of government, their job is to make poor people's/ minority's lives harder and keep them beaten down /s

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (9 children)

As a citizen of a civilized country: What is this "medical debt" Americans keep talking about?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

It's how they punish us poor people for surviving instead of dying off like good little wage slaves.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (4 children)

it's not very nice to shit-talk victims of exploitation

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Haha... I'm in Europe and have health insurance debt ...

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Doesn't every state have a public program for low income families? That's literally what Medicaid is, I believe?

Some places are totally just not doing it right

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

Depends on the state, mine only started participating in the Medicaid expansion program a year or two ago. Here low income families can have functional Medicaid coverage until you're 18, then you get put on a limited care program that really only covers emergent care. However, both the child and adult programs recently got semi-privatized. Now the sate pays BCBS and Humana to run the Medicaid program for the state, letting them determine what coverage is like.

So even in southern states where there is a Medicaid program, the adults rarely have coverage for everyday healthcare needs. It's mainly there to make sure there's some way to reimburse emergent care facilities.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Some places are totally just not doing it right

Repugnantcans: "It's not that we don't know how to govern, it's just that government is inherently bad compared to the free market"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Also known as: starving the beast

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

It seems like it's up to the state to set the barrier for entry to their Medicaid system. In my state, the limit was <$24k yearly income, and I think that's gone up since I last looked. In a friend's state, it was <$12k to qualify, which is a lot harder to survive on.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

It's almost like the people of many states decided to shoot their own foot off... with no insurance.
Gee... I wonder if there's a voting pattern we could discern from this map.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] clay_pidgin 9 points 4 months ago

I mean, that's like eight people. Pretty easy for one guy with lousy insurance to throw off the results.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wait, I thought most states did? Meant for the really low income people on food stamps and cash assistance?

Also, Jesus Christ Wyoming.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What's the square guy in top left that's almost completely red?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

So many reasons, medical debt being one of them. Yellowstone is pretty, though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't believe for one second that the central valley in California isn't in the top tier. They're probably just not counting half the workforce there.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Anyone know what’s going on in that one red triangle in Pennsylvania? I’m not familiar with that part of PA and nothing stands out on a map

Aside from that, all of the northeast except Maine showing well.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's Franklin County.

Described as a Republican Party Stronghold, only three Democratic Party candidates for president managed to win the county since 1880. The most recent Dem candidate to win the county was LBJ.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's lots of counties in PA that are deep red but don't have that amount of medical debt. Is Franklin County riddled with cancer or something?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

In the US, people regularly don't receive the medical attention they need because they can't afford to. The European mind cannot comprehend this.

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