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I feel this pain. Wife's battery-powered devices are always in a constant state of dying. Something has convinced her that it's better to let the battery almost! die, then charge it to full, but not leave it plugged in because that will degrade the battery; meaning it never gets charged overnight. I'm sure there's a small kernel of truth in where she learned that, but it's almost a joke at this point when she goes scrambling for her charger when using her phone, tablet, etc. It's painful, but also adorable? I guess. Anyway, it's not a hill I'm willing to die on, so I just let it be and laugh almost everytime it happens.
She needn't worry about manually optimizing battery wear, and, in fact, the most harmful thing you can do to a battery is to fully deplete it frequently.
Educate her about built-in optimized battery charging. iPhones and some Androids have it.
I think that was true like.. 10+ years ago, but battery and power management tech have advanced so that's no longer necessesary. I think running full cycles on your battery is actually bad for it now, I set mine to stop charging when it hits 85% to preserve battery health.
Sounds stressful constantly worrying about battery life, plopping it on a wireless charger before bed is the way to go.
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Something has convinced her that itβs better to let the battery almost! die, then charge it to full, but not leave it plugged in because that will degrade the battery
That was true a long time ago when NiCad batteries were around. But, since they had the problems you described, they're not around any more, and phones generally all use lithium-ion batteries which don't have this issue.
Haha right? It's not worth it! But yeah, I feel like it's just a stressful way to live when the other option is to just grab a cord and plug in before falling asleep...
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I just fall asleep while watching a yt video of something and the phone is still in my hand.
I genuinely don't understand how this works for so many people. When i watch something, I watch it and wont sleep until i make the concious decision to stop paying attention and close my eyes. Same with books or anything really. Maybe music works
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Like, you went through your day exhausted and want to finally make a decision to go to bed for yourself, but no you have to remember to connect the USB cable.
Get her a wireless charger stand.
Keeping Lithium-ion batteries at 100% charge will reduce their lifespan. They want to live in the 40-80% range. I use an app that notifies me when my phone has charged to 80%, so that I can unplug it. It may be overkill, but I plan to use this phone for 9 more years or so.
9 more years?? I've gotten almost 6 years out of my Oneplus 5T and I've been ecstatic about it. It's literally lasted 3 times longer than any phone I've had before it
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Both iphone and androids have an OS option to stop charging at 85 though - I keep it on all the time unless I'm going to need that extra bit of juice
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They want to live in the 40-80% range.
Yes, that's correct but with some extra consideration. There's two kinds of wear for Li-Ion batteries, shelf life and cycle life. To maximize shelf life you want to store at 40% to %50% charge in a cool environment. To maximize cycle life you want to avoid charging and discharging fully.
There's two curves where cycle life and shelf life cross for maximum longevity. For example if you shut off your Li-Ion powered device or remove the battery for long periods, shelf life becomes more significant. Storing at 40% charge in a cool environment will maximize battery life. If you discharge frequently, then keeping the charge cycle shallow will maximize longevity since that's going to be most significant.
Honestly it's complicated to deal with and squeezing all the life you can out of a battery is typically not worth the trouble. Though it's definitely nice when chargers give you options, most don't.
In general Li-Ion batteries are highly desirable for their top tier energy density and that's why they're so ubiquitous, but the wear and safety considerations are big disadvantages. The holy grail of battery technology is to eliminate those issues.
Me too. Samsung has a feature to "protect battery life", so it only charges until 85%. You can keep it on power, but it won't surpass 85%.
I used to never charge my phone at night, because of my battery health pedantry. I the found the AccA app which enables me to limit the maximum charging, so now I sometimes leave it changing during the night.
If you're still convinced you need to run your battery down to zero you're operating on outdated knowledge of NiCad batteries and ruining your lithium ion batteries.
My Android phone has a built in functionality to charge so that it hits 100% when your alarm is rigged to go off. Idk about iphone though.
I was not talking about running the battery down to 0, that's no good for li-ion batteries either. I was talking about the exact, opposite, reaching 100% and staying there for hours on end (which happens during the night). With AccA I can set an upper limit.
Hi Tmpod! This is actually a common misconception among the general device-using public!
You are absolutely correct that a lithium battery will degrade if you maintain a state of charge (βSOCβ) for long periods of time that is either above 90% or below 10%. Of course, phone manufacturers know this too, and they have set the charging software to block off the top of the pack, which allows the user to safely leave their phone on the charger indefinitely.
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I use Samsung built in feature to limit to 85% and I'm so glad they implemented it because I was about to either try to look for an app again or stop charging at night...
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I work a desk job with an outlet right there, The nearest outlet to my bed is on the other side of the room and I ain't ain't getting out of bed for my 3am memes.
You just described my entire life. We're probably best friends now.
Fire hazard.
I charge it at work while I'm (mostly) conscious. xD
I got a Oneplus that charges at 65w so I don't have to leave it plugged in overnight. I just charge it 15min while shaving or whatever.
I wfh and charge during work
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when i see people's phones constantly at, like, 12%, it drives me crazy.
Haha it's always funny with screenshots posted on social media, like 4% I'm sweating π
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I charge it during the day at work.
Boss makes a dollar I make a dime...
... that's why I charge on company time
I don't want an exploding phone in my bedroom. I charge it at my desk while working
Because I try to charge my phone when I am in the office, as much as possible. There are no small savings in my book :D
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I have a wireless charger on my desk, pretty much almost every day I already have 100% when going to bed
Some people are just extremely lazy. I used to be the same, but I decided to spend a few dollars on a wireless charging stand that I can just throw my phone onto while I'm dozing off.
There's actually a safety factor there. When Li-Ion (lithium-ion) batteries fail and suffer thermal runaway (fire), it's most commonly during charging. It's rare, but it does still happen. The rule is to avoid charging Li-Ion powered devices unattended. I do that at times myself, but I realize the risk and actually put things in a "charging pot" if unattended.
You don't need anything fancy to use as a charging pot, a ceramic casserole dish will do. If you're going to charge while asleep or out of the house it's not a bad idea to use some kind of containment.
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I have a wireless charging stand at work, so my phone is nearly 70% charged when I go to bed. No real point to me in having extra clutter on my nightstand.
On the weekends, Iβll charge my phone on the kitchen counter while making breakfast for the kids.
Same thing with my girlfriend. I even got a charger and a cable just for her exclusive use but she keeps unplugging my phone because "it has more charge than mine". Which, fair, but like??? It didn't have to be this way??
I do generally charge my phone at night, but I do it while awake and unplug it before I go to sleep. It's increasingly rare these days, but I just don't want to risk the potential fire hazard of leaving a phone plugged in.
I read to fall asleep, so my phone usually stays with me in bed. Pro-Tip, if she has an iPhone, set the Sleep focus to turn on at a specific time and enable low power mode.
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Because i charge it before i go to sleep?
We are the same, I put my phone and charge (set to stop charging at 85%) overnight, my wife does not, and then her phone dies at odd times like when she is out shopping. I suppose it is about having a scheduled routine or not. I have alarms set for 10:30 every evening to check if a charge is needed for my watch that day. Some people just don't like the routine and prefer to live a bit more on the edge.
I charge my phone during the day while at my desk. The grid mix during the day is mostly solar where I live so it's green, and when I'm not working from home, it's free electricity.
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