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[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Amazing! I can't believe after all this time someone finally passed this common sense legislation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

The legislation that directed these rules to be written was actually passed by Congress a few years ago.

It takes quite some time for new federal regulations to be written and enacted, with lengthy public comment periods.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is election year performative action with no direct effect on reducing gun crime.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Actually violent crime has been dropping consistently for decades!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

This won't actually do anything from my understanding though. I thought this wasn't going to change the private sales between people walking around gun shows from selling to each other, just the vendors in booths who are already required to do back ground checks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What is this, just nics for private party transfers?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

That sucks and is stupid. Thanks for confirming though.

[–] prayer 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There are some exceptions, including for hobbyists who are selling firearms from their collection and people who sell firearms they inherited.

This makes the law toothless. People who were selling mainly for a profit just at gun shows were already in violation of the law, just that nobody did anything about it.

Now they'll just claim to be hobbyists and can continue as if nothing changed.

The only way they can make this stick is if they determine that "for profit" means you make more money than you bought it for, rather than intending to make more money that you bought it for, which would be ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

It includes a specific set of rules for making the determination.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is insane. They are trying to backdoor outlaw private sales without going through Congress. This should be challenged and thrown out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can still make the occasional private sale of your used firearm. What you can't do is make a business out of it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

As usual with these rule changes, the devil is in the details. From what I have seen it is hundreds to pages and creates a framework where there is a lot of discretion and subjectivity on the part of the ATF to charge people under the rule. There is no bright-line rule with regard to the number or frequency of transfers. It gives feds too broad of discretion to selectively apply criminal law. If you don't believe me, look how ATF and DOJ have handled literally every other firearms related issue under this administration.