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[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Doesn't it take only 1 of the counties with veto power to shut this down? Why would Russia ever approve?

Edit: Had a brain fart. Thanks for the corrections. Leaving my dumb comment anyway.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 4 months ago (1 children)

NATO. Not the UN. Russia has no say into nato since it was designed to fit Russia.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

designed to fit Russia.

Luckily Russia isn't fit.

[–] TheMightyCanuck 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Down voted for a joke based on someone else's typo... what a world we live in

Edit: that's more like it

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

I'm doing my part!

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Russia isn't in NATO, but they are it's most successful recruiter.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Which is why I'm baffled why people still spread the myth that Russia invaded to 'stop nato aggression.'

Like, firstly you're fucking wrong, but if you want to wear that L like a medal then go for it. Russia is the biggest reason the baltics joined.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I'm not sure who would say that it was to 'stop NATO aggression', but it's not hard to imagine it as a some kind of response to NATO's continued expansion around them.

NATO hasn't been in any direct operations against Russia but they have been involved in the ME where they have been active.

I think of it a lot in the same way as the US's pacific ocean and Caribbean territorial expansion and involvement in central america as a response to the Cuban Missile crisis and Soviet posturing.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think of it a lot in the same way as the US’s pacific ocean and Caribbean territorial expansion and involvement in central america as a response to the Cuban Missile crisis and Soviet posturing.

The "Cuban" missile crisis was started by USA putting nukes in Turkey.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago

NATO not the UN, Russia isn’t a member.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Who gave Russia a veto at NATO?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

SO UN FAIR!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

That's 20 billion per year. The EU's alone defense spending for 2023 was 270bil. This is not a lot of money.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (5 children)

The EU has no defense budget, the member countries have.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah, this is less the cavalry is here and more "we've committed 3 peanuts, which is better than no peanuts". It's probably enough to help Ukraine a bit, assuming they can agree to it and fund it as committed.

It's unclear if this is humanitarian, non-lethal or general military aid, from the non-paywalled section of the article.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

221 days until the next U.S. presidential election

Can Ukraine hold on that long?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (142 children)

If Republicans have a majority in Congress, they'll continue to support Russia.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (9 children)

I know NATO doesn't have unlimited resources, but given that this is an explicit proxy war with Russia, doesn't $100bn seem kind of paltry? That makes it appear that they're planning on continuing cash infusions from the US.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

EDIT: I'm saying that the US can't be relied on to continue supporting the war effort because the GOP in particular has become increasingly opposed to funding it.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (17 children)

The problem NATO has with this proxy war can't be solved by printing money. The issue lies in the lack of industrial production in the west, and you can't just create a huge industry for producing weapons and ammunition out of whole cloth.

This will be a fantastic vehicle for pushing for austerity in Europe though. The oligarchs have been very upset that Europeans enjoy a social safety net and things like pensions. The need for massive military spending will be a perfect justification for stripping these rights away from the workers. Europeans are about to start enjoying American style freedoms.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

what too much finance capital does to a mf

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