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[–] [email protected] 125 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

While most sugaring operations used to rely on buckets and spiles, more are upgrading to vacuum tubing systems able to suck more sap from the tree over longer periods.

How much you wanna bet this is gonna be bad in the long-run? I'm predicting that increasing the sap harvest from individual trees is going to damage the trees; and while the effects may not be seen in the next couple years, I bet eventually the trees will start getting sick and start dying because they don't have enough sap.

[–] ogmios 30 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The reddit thread on this is full of people talking about this being the best year they've ever had, so.... maybe not as great a system as they're selling it to be?

[–] [email protected] 49 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The maple syrup supply is a fraud set by the syrup foundation.

The stockpile and intentionally limit supply to drive prices.

I wouldnt be surprised if the "winter that wasnt" is just an excuse to raise price and they have heaps

https://nypost.com/2021/11/26/canada-releases-50-million-pounds-from-maple-syrup-stockpile/

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago

🙂capitalism is fun guys🙃

My friend has a little 300-tree operation. He says it's the best year he's ever had.

Big maple is lying to us!

[–] [email protected] 48 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I make syrup out of the tree(s) in my yard.

It’s true. It was such a weird year weather wise that I only got about 2 bottles of syrup. Normally I can get like… 8-10?

A lot of people don’t really know how sap production works, but it really is a pretty limited window

That being said, if you live outside of a maple tree (or some other kinds), go buy a $20 tap or whatever from Amazon. It’s fun and surprisingly piss easy to make syrup at home.

[–] lemon 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Out of curiosity, do you have to refine it somehow, or is it good to eat straight from the tree?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

I have no real firsthand experience making syrup, but one of my scout leaders years ago used to make his own so I picked up some bits and pieces from him.

When it comes out of the tree, it's very watery, I've never had the chance to try it myself but I'm told that it's very refreshing, and I believe it's actually lower in sugar than something like coconut water.

Then you boil it down to concentrate it into a syrup.

And as I understand it, that's pretty much it, I suspect at some point it maybe goes through a sieve or a filter of some kind to catch any particulates that might be in there.

I don't know if it's a common practice, but my scout leader had also rigged up a reverse osmosis system to cut down on how long he needed to boil it. Normally with a RO system, it puts out clean water and you throw away the concentrated waste product, but in his case the "waste" is what he wants, not quite syrup, but more concentrated maple water that requires less boiling to make syrup.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sap itself is essentially water. You probably… could just drink it alone but don’t. It’s weird and a little gross.

You basically just pour it all in a vat and boil it down. It boils down at a 40:1 ratio. 40 gallons of sap is about one gallon of syrup.

You just boil it until it reaches the correct sugar concentration, or until you’re pretty satisfied

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Gross as in it tastes bad raw?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I haven’t tried it in any significant quality, it’s incredibly close to normal water at that concentration. Maybe a bit woody, really not sweet.

It’s also just unprocessed tree-water you get from a bucket and I’m not an expert on the health and safety of all that but yunno, to me it’s something I’d want at least boiled first.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

It didn’t seem that different from like… tree fruit juice, but based on some of the comments I’ve gotten, it doesn’t sound like it would be very pleasant.

[–] Peppycito 1 points 8 months ago

You can drink it straight from the tree but they say it gives you diarrhea.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Maybe, just maybe, we should be considering the impacts of increased natural gas consumption on climate change? Although direct CO2 emissions from burning are about half that of coal, natural gas (i.e., methane) is a GHG that's 80x more potent than CO2 over 20 years and about 30x more potent over 100 years.

Meanwhile, a significant proportion of natural gas is lost during transmission due to leakage... Figures, then, that the symptoms of climate change seem to be escalating just as natural gas is being used to replace coal.

Burning natural gas does have an important benefit: it burns much cleaner, which reduces particulate emissions.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

Maybe we should switch to clean, renewable energy wherever possible and save important, nonrenewable hydrocarbons for future generations. There may not be an energy breakthrough that comes along to replace them.

[–] JohnDClay 4 points 8 months ago

Nuclear! And as much renewables as we possibly can. But preferably while not entirely wrecking river ecosystems with dams.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Maybe. But I just want syrup for my pancakes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Maple syrup shortage? Canadians everywhere:

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Maybe I'll buy an extra bottle next time I'm at the store, eh?