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[–] RayJW 36 points 6 months ago (3 children)

10 Gbps symmetrical for 40 bucks a month TV included. It's absolutely mind boggling for me how expensive internet is in North America.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Jesus, 10Gbps!? I'm paying $90 for "gigaspeed" AT&T fiber. But, I'm luckier than most, I have AT&T fiber and Metronet as fiber providers, as well as Spectrum and T-Mobile (but yuck to using 5G as my primary source of internet).

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

North America is insane with their internet costs.

Here in VN, I can get unlimited 4G for 40$ a year, and 100mbps symmetrical fiber for about 50$ a year. The biggest provider is the Army. Their customer service is actually pretty fast and good too!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

The country is fucking huge to be fair, but it's also the capitalism capital of the world.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Would have great internet too if the telecommunication companies didn't just pocket the money for installing fiber infrastructure. Twice.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That's awful, I'm sorry :(

Is your ISP's infrastructure based on RFC 1149?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

IPoD actually has really high throughput.

According to wikipedia Carrier pigeons typically travel ~1000km at ~100km/h and can carry 75g comfortably. a microsd card weighs about 0.5g and we have 1Tb ones now so our pigeon could carry about 150Tb per trip (sidenote that'll cost ~20K so packet loss would really suck) . that's an impressive 33Gb/s at the 1000km range. the 30million ms ping might be annoying though.

relevant XKCD

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

This really needs an update for each carrier to transport multiple packets at once.
Based on RFC2549 it seems each carrier can transport up to 10g. That's roughly 40 MicroSD cards. The current largest MicroSD cards are 2TB, so that's 80TB/carrier. It seems the smallest response time is 3,000s.
That means the theoretical top transfer rate could be roughly 213Gbps.

Edit: Although it seems the carriers could do as much as 75g. That's 300 MicroSD cards or 600TB. At 5km that makes 1.6Tbps!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

17mbps (Neighbour's Wifi).

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[–] dandroid 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

1000 up and down. Fiber is great. Actually having competition instead of a Comcast monopoly in my area is amazing.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

1000/1000 for like $3 a month. But that's with the caveat of living in China, where I need a VPN to access most western websites, so that's my bottleneck.

Domestically I can get the full bandwidth when streaming (ton of English content available for cheap), but once I need to use the VPN it drops to maybe 200-300 mbit, depending on the server and current utilization.

Moving to Malaysia in less than 2 months where I can get 2gbit for about $90 (tested at my friend's house), but honestly I think I'll settle on 500. It's more than I can realistically use in a 2 person household, and it's like 20 bucks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

500 is the sweet spot, at least for downloads. I have it and it's fast enough for all my needs. Upload can be less, although I'd love to have more than the current 50. Good luck with your move!

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Mine is supposed to be 100 / 100 and actually is. In Vietnam, symmetrical fiber-to-the-home is actually pretty common. I think I pay 5$ a month, or maybe a bit less.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Damn. It surprises me how many people here are from VN.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It was a long road, getting from there to here.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (3 children)

10 GBit symmetrical. Which is a bit useless, since my motherboard only supports 1 GBit, but it's good to be ready for the future, I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (4 children)

You could get a 10 Gbps network card for under $100

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

And ensure the router and the ethernet cable support that. But yeah.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I pay for 1000/50, I get more like 500/50 which is fine by me. Costs 80CAD a month.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

My day job is building ISP networks. It's been about 20 years since I had a home connection that I didn't configure up both ends of myself.

I've got a 1G / 500M tail into home where I am right now, not that that is particularly impressive. One of the jobs I've been putting off at work is standardising our usage of the 10G GPON platform available here in NZ, when I do that I'll get one of the >1G tails to use at home.

Usually the answer is how ever much I can be bothered building, but my usage is pretty low.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

75/15

Everyone around me is getting fiber, but I'm on a private/unadopted road, so not for me 😭

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

"250 symmetrical", but my router usually reports around 270ish each way. Recently moved somewhere with fiber to the home.

Previously the cable co I was with kept sending notifications that they had "upgraded" my service. I went from like 100mbps down to like 300 down with them, but they never changed the 10mbps up...

[–] AlecSadler 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

1000mbps symmetric, $500/mo (yeah I know...)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] AlecSadler 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I live pretty rural and no service providers had any desire or plans to expand service to where I am. Best offering was 768kbps DSL.

I'm in a little bit of a valley with a ton of huge trees, so Starlink would cut out every 10-15 minutes. Cellular internet was...okay...but not fast enough for my needs.

I ended up paying a provider to dig a trench from a distant main road to my property and bury a fiber line direct for my use. It has a 99.99999% uptime guarantee which is nice.

I'll be paying for it for 10 years....but honestly, worth it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (10 children)

Holy shit ! you'll be paying 500$/month for ten years ? Yea, I imagine I would do that too, given the dough

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

~90/30 (paying for 100/40).

That's considered pretty good for our shit Aussie FTTN (VDSL) network.

Fibre upgrades are happening.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

150Mbps advertised, 170Mbps in reality. 15Mbps up @CAD50/mo.

I had 1Gbps before but I monitored my usage: playing MMOs (<1Mbps, latency is important not bandwidth), watching Netflix (<10Mbps in HD, ~25Mbps if 4K) and minor stuff like Skype. iOS or Linux SW updates run in the background anyway and many servers were limited in their end. Only things that could very rarely max it out were bittorrent which I usually am not in any hurry with anyway, my BT machine runs 24/7. Most of the time my connection was almost idle.

So I downgraded and saved money for more important things. My building is getting a second fiber provider soon but it still starts at CAD70 for 500Mbps, so I'll pass.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Melbourne Australia: ~75/30mbps. Was getting 1000/1000 at my last place near the city, but we bought a house in a forest.

Thanks to the left wing government, we'll get upgraded to 1000/1000 in 1.5 years.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

80/20 for 30€

But your post animated me to check, so there is one for 100/40 for 20€ now i switched to. Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

1000/1000. Usually testing will show between 800-960 in both directions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

250/250Mbit, included in my utilities bill

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

3.6mbps/3.4mbps unlimited, $50 a month. At least, that's what speedtest.net says it is at the moment. I think it's supposed to be 6, but such is the life of the countryside.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

1-5Mbps during the day.
It is what it is.

But! If I had smartphone with MediaTek SoC (or root access), I could get 30-40Mbps. Currently I get this by using a VPN 24/7.

Lemmy explain:
My carrier (Swan) only has cell towers in 1800MHz band. They partnered with other carrier (Orange) to extend their coverage. Originally, this was done using so called "National roaming" in 2G and 3G. For purposes of internet connectivity, 2G is irrelevant. This was awesome as I could just manually choose Orange and get faster speeds. Unfortunately, Orange shut down their 3G network, and the license was updated so they now provide Swan with 4G except in 800MHz band.

What's different? It's not done via "National roaming" anymore, but the phone signs into Orange's network natively as Swan, without roaming, and it is not possible to manually select Orange anymore.
So, how would MediaTek help me?
They have "Engineer mode" *#*#3646633#*#* with "Band mode" selection where you can allow specific bands manually.
Remember that Swan only has towers in 1800MHz band? Yep, I could disallow that, and stick to Orange towers (also limiting myself from their B3 towers, but whatever).

I have tested that with my old MediaTek phone, and it works. So it's a functional concept.
(Same thing can be achieved on rooted Qualcomm and app like NSG)

I found one more workaround (no, not using a jammer which would be illegal). I found out that I won't get switched away from Orange as long as there is a continuous connection. So, I can take a bus into area without Swan coverage and connect to a VPN using OpenVPN TCP (didn't help with UDP), and then head back. Important thing is to never disconnect, not even for a second.
That's how I am currently on 2100MHz from Orange. I must stay connected 24/7.

We do not have internet at home, so this is all I have. Overnight downloads go brrr...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

960mbps up/down for $75usd/m

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

40down, 6up, 50USD/mo go USA! Only other option is Starlink which already had and was too unreliable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

1000/1000 @ $C 75

I have 3 different first party fiber ISPs available to me at home with a max speed available of 8000/8000

Which is weird because I'm not in a city and live in a small town of less than 20k people

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Theoretically? 100. It only works in specific, uncrowded areas, and then only sometimes.

Practically, as in 80% of scenarios? Anywhere from 10 to as low as 0.03. It's bad enough that in some places I can't even load a basic website, as I can't even crack 1mbps. I also often get the "connected, no Internet" crap.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

380/260, for β€œgigabit fiber”

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