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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/17490070

humanitarian organizations, many of which have been sounding alarms about the hunger crisis in Gaza for months, are not impressed. They argue that air and sea deliveries are not only an insufficient substitute for humanitarian aid delivered by land, but a dehumanizing one that acts as a distraction to the man-made barriers that have prevented more aid from getting into Gaza in the first place. “There is no good reason why aid cannot access Gaza by road today,”

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[–] Deceptichum 42 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It took over 1,500 flights a day to supply West Berlin during the blockade and that’s with a comparable sized population who weren’t being murdered every day.

A few air drops will never be sufficient.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It's not meant to be sufficient, it is meant to make Biden look like he's doing something other than merely prolonging the slaughter by sending arms to Israel.

[–] Deceptichum 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Of course, and we need to call that out at every chance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Yep! It is an election year, after all.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago

it is meant to make Biden look like he’s doing something other than merely prolonging the slaughter by sending arms to Israel.

How does sending arms to Israel prolong the war? It should rather speed up its resolution, I would think?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It took over 1,500 flights a day to supply West Berlin during the blockade and that’s with a comparable sized population who weren’t being murdered every day.

Two million people took ~4,500 tons a day. The C-54 carried 10 tons, meaning that it only required 450 flights per day. Comments like yours are based on the older C-37 and / or the Easter Push where the Allies did a maximum effort run just to flex on the Soviets.

In 2024 a C-130 Hercules has a max payload of 21 tons, over double the C-54, meaning that required flights would potentially be reduced to 225.

Then you have to consider that Operation Vittles was also delivering COAL, something that the citizens of Gaza probably don't need.

200 flights a day would do it but that still doesn't excuse Israel for preventing aid via land routes.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Berlin was an airlift operation, not an air drop. They landed the aircraft at several airports, and directly offloaded cargo to trucks.

AFAIK, Gaza has no operational airports, which greatly complicates the logistics of an airlift mission on the scale of Berlin.

If we are considering this sort of mission, we're looking at sealift, not airlift. Our historical precedence will be the Mulberry harbors set up to support the Normandy invasion.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Gaza does not have any operational airports, since Israel bombed the control tower at Yasser Arafat airport in 2001 and bulldozed the runway in 2002.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That was USA's ally. They weren't being supplied out of goodwill.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

isrsel won't let aid get in by land

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Then bomb Israeli military and governing installations as a proper response to committing genocide?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I don't know if that's a good idea but I like the sentiment

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't Gaza have a border with Egypt?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

technically this is a border between egypt and israel, and israel will be in control of it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

The Palestinian territories are parts of Israel

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

At least the US pier headed for Gaza is making progress.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Fuck the pier.

Imagine someone was setting your house on fire and another guy named Joe was handing him cash and oil to keep setting fire to your house. Joe told him to stop as he handed the guy more oil, but he didn't so Joe promised to install a hose in the front lawn of your house that should be ready in about 3 months to help put out some of the fire.

The US needs to stop supplying and protecting Israel first and foremost. Anything else is PR.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Bro, some people just can't stay on topic.

They always have to resort to some bullshit analogy, lol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

The air drops are mostly political posturing anyways. But its better than nothing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Falling short

Hah