Houthi attack kills two sailors in group’s first fatal strike on shipping (www.aljazeera.com)

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The Houthis claimed responsibility for the attack on Wednesday, which set the Greek-owned, Barbados-flagged ship True Confidence ablaze approximately 50 nautical miles (93km) off the coast of Yemen’s port of Aden.

“The targeting operation came after the ship’s crew rejected warning messages from the Yemeni naval forces,” the militia’s military spokesman Yahya Sarea said in a televised speech.

The True Confidence is owned by the Liberian-registered company True Confidence Shipping and operated by the Greece-based Third January Maritime, both firms said in their joint statement. They said the ship had no link to the US.

However, it had previously been owned by Oaktree Capital Management, a Los Angeles-based fund that finances vessels on instalments.

The Houthis “will not stop until the aggression is stopped and the siege on the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip is lifted”, Saree said.

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[-] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

I would like to congratulate the Houthis on becoming the very monster they claim to be fighting. They've indiscriminately killed innocent people who are directly unrelated to the Israeli genocide of Gaza. Just like Israel, who is indiscriminately killing innocent people who are directly unrelated to the Hamas attack on Oct 7. Both groups even gave warnings and act like that's sufficient.

Are we positive that Netanyahu isn't secretly funding or boosting the Houthis?

[+] [email protected] -16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Maybe we can ask Biden to bomb Yemen some more and Netanyahu to starve people in Gaza harder that sure seems to work.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Oh Linkerbaan, there you are. Unable to comprehend that two wrongs don't make a right. Every. Single. Time.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Very common here

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Linkerbaan is almost certainly a Russian agent.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Maybe. They most certainly have monological worldview. Every statement is distilled down to a binary prism of logical deductions. It's either A or B. There is no other alternative.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

If it's right for the Houthis to do this to try and stop the Palestinian genocide, that would also make it right for Israel to commit genocide to try and stop Hamas. And it should be clear by now that we both agree Israel is not right to do so whatsoever.

Hamas indiscriminately killing innocent people didn't solve the problem. Israel indiscriminately killing innocent people isn't solving the problem. So why would the Houthis indiscriminately killing people solve the problem?

None of this is an actual solution.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Fuck the Houthis.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

This comment section is entertaining

[-] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The Houthis “will not stop until the aggression is stopped and the siege on the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip is lifted”, Saree said.

Seems fair to me. All's fair in love and war, after all.

Glad these people are fighting back however they can, although it's sad more innocent lives are being lost because of Israel's genocide.

[+] [email protected] -14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

They're using their sovereign rights to blockade their waters. I don't care about the demonization or the disruption of shipping. They're putting themselves in the sights of the US out of sheer empathy. Which gives me hope.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

They are not blockading 'their waters'. They are murdering civilians in international waters. Because of this, we will continue to diminish their ability and destroy the murderers involved in these attacks.

[+] [email protected] -14 points 4 months ago

They've killed two people out of quite a sizable number of attacks. Deeply unfortunate anyone died, but it speaks to the fact they're trying to avoid civilian casualties. They have the courage to stand up to the US backed genocide of Gaza, because not long ago, they faced similar odds in the US backed, Saudi destruction of Yemen.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

You're not trying to avoid civilian casualties if you fire on civilians.

[-] [email protected] -5 points 4 months ago

Civilians they told to turn back. Its a single ship not an entire landmass. They immobilized most ships and ceased fire. That's not some kind of unrestrained bloodlust.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Firing a Mach 4 missile with 1,300 lbs of warhead at civilians is, in fact, unrestrained bloodlust. They ceased fire because it would be wasteful to fire again.

That's like saying, "The cop didn't dump a second magazine into the man who didn't respond to the cop's commands. He showed restraint! The guy is still breathing, he's just immobilized!"

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Israel told Palestinian civilians to seek shelter and that bombs were incoming. Does that absolve them of killing so many innocent people?

Of course not. Same goes here.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Israel told them to go to safe spots, such as refugee shelters or the Rafah crossing. The bombed both anyways. Not only does it take significantly more time to evacuate 2 million people, they had no where to evacuate to. This ship and the employers had an option, go through a passageway where they were explicitly warned they would be fired upon or turn back. They chose to ignore explicit orders believing the US had more control and could grant them safe passage. That's not remotely comparable.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

It's not in any way defensible for the Houthis however.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The ship they attacked is the True Confidence, a ship registered in Liberia and operated by Greece. The crew members were Indian, Vietnamese, and Filipino. The vessel had been sailing to Saudi Arabia from China.

Where did you get the idea any of this has to do with Israel or the US? You don't get to just murder random people and claim it is for some cause. The Houthis have become the monster they claim to fight.

[+] [email protected] -9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

“The targeting operation came after the ship’s crew rejected warning messages from the Yemeni naval forces,” the militia’s military spokesman Yahya Sarea said in a televised speech.

The True Confidence is owned by the Liberian-registered company True Confidence Shipping and operated by the Greece-based Third January Maritime, both firms said in their joint statement. They said the ship had no link to the US.

However, it had previously been owned by Oaktree Capital Management, a Los Angeles-based fund that finances vessels on instalments.

If the Houthi's truly told them to turn around it's rather weird they decided to just continue after being warned.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

it's rather weird they decided to just continue

Yeah, it's really weird that operators of cargo frigates have to incur really high operating costs and have to weigh the risk/benefits of rerouting along THE ENTIRE CONTINENT OF AFRICA. Hmmm. It's like these people depend on paychecks for their living. So weird!

Also, these people have nothing to do with the ongoing conflict in Israel. They are just sailors trying to earn a living.

And before you dare say it: I'm not defending Israel. Let me repeat: NOT. DEFENDING. ISRAEL. Israel no good. Israel: BAD. IDF: BAD. Houthi?? Also bad.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

Israel warned civilians before bombing the shit out of them. Why didn't they just evacuate? /s

This is no excuse. The Houthis just killed a bunch of innocent brown people because the brown people refused to heed their warning of violence. If we condemn Israel for that, we must condemn the Houthis for that as well.

[-] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago

You're right those ships had nowhere else to go but through the designated Red Sea evacuation route. They were literally forced there. It was an ethnic shipping cleansing.

[+] [email protected] -10 points 4 months ago

Where did you get the idea

from their leader and troops

sorry bud but if you're really going to equate the death of two people to a genocide you lost me there.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Are you out of your fucking mind? Should everyone go around killing random sailors because there are genocides happening in the world. What are in flying fuck are you smoking

[+] [email protected] -15 points 4 months ago

Those waters aren't safe. They are free to circumnavigate

[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

They are not. Many of these sailors have barely any agency in their lives, and certainly can't just tell a multinational corporation they're taking the long route

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

You want them to circumnavigate the ENTIRE CONTINENT OF AFRICA because a bunch of rebels are vying for political clout? Where were the Houthis when 100k people were being genocided right next door in Syria? Oh that's right. That genocide doesnt matter, huh?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You mean while they were under complete siege and 80,000 died? You wanted them to attack their allies and also take on mass starvation/bombing raids from Saudi Arabia 😆

[-] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

you wanted them to attack thei allies

No, I want to see how consistent they are on the principle of genocide or if it's only the more popular ones which give them more clout.

In your world -if you have any logical consistency- ANY country has free reign to attack ANY civilian trade vessels in international waters on behalf of a genocide happening somewhere. Stop and think about that for a second.

It just happens that the Houthis align with condemning this one particular genocide in Gaza so people like you come on and glaze for a bunch of disgusting people that are violating human rights in their own country left and right all day long but because Gaza is so hot in the news now it's convenient to defend the Houthis actions. It's sick and disgusting.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

That's bullshit. When you fire explosives at a crewed ship, you are trying to, or willing to kill them. It doesn't matter how successful you are

[-] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago

They don't care about any genocide anywhere and the fact that you've bought into this narrative without question is a clear indication that your are a child.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Thanks for replying to every comment I've made to ensure I know that I am a 'fucking child'. It's the most mature display I have ever seen. You're teaching me how to be an adult.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

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