Or the jobs they think they are too good for and don’t want but get mad anyway.
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I had someone here on Lemmy tell me that if crop-picking paid more, Americans would be willing to do it. Fuck no they wouldn't. There's a reason we used to have slaves do that work.
What’s insane to me is that you can point this out to them and the still side with the capitalist because “well it’s good business to find cheaper labor.” They’re so brainwashed that somehow making more money will always be the ethical and just thing to do.
And when we try to fix it, you guys claim that no americans will work the jobs, and crops will go unpicked and we will all starve.
Which is it?
We watched it play out in England, with Brexit. Right had be screaming about immigrants, from Eastern Europe, taking jobs. This whole rhetoric eventually lead to the fiasco that was Brexit.
After Brexit, the farmers (who mostly voted for Brexit) found they couldn't find the staff to pick fields. It turns out that the English unemployed won't do the back breaking work for a pittance. The food literally rotted in the fields. We also had a shortage of truck drivers. A lot of our truckers were Eastern European, and saw which way the wind was blowing. They decided to work more in mainland Europe.
In the end, it wasn't immigrants taking our jobs. It was immigrants doing jobs we didn't want to do. Or filling in skill holes our workforce couldn't cover.
Because you guys don't pay enough and treat the workers well enough. Thats the plain of it. And yall kept importing cheap labor well after brexit, still do.
No argument there. The 3 main points though.
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The itinerant workers decided they didn't want to deal with the issues, so far less are available.
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The system couldn't adapt to the change fast enough (food price adjustments etc).
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The people who took most advantage of the situation were also the ones bitching about the "immigrants stealing our jobs!". They lost out particularly hard when those same immigrants said "ok, we'll go elsewhere".
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Immigrants aren’t taking your jobs. Your jobs are being offshored to countries with cheaper labor and lax regulation.
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