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After non-binary teen's death, lawmaker says Christians don't "want that filth" in Oklahoma (www.friendlyatheist.com)

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 months ago (2 children)

This person got assaulted and murdered in a school bathroom. It doesn't matter their gender, sexuality, ethnicity, religion, or anything else. Literally none of that matters because let me reiterate: A living breathing human being was assaulted and fucking murdered in a school bathroom. This person had their life taken away from them in highschool and the only thing you can say is you "don't want that filth" in Oklahoma? If all you want to do is shit on other people's life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness you might as well go fuck yourself with an American flag since it's basically the same fucking thing anyway.

Sorry for the rant... This shit just really pisses me off. I just hope one day he can feel as hopeless as Nex probably did in that bathroom.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

I'm with them, when they say, they don't want that filth. The only difference is, that I have a different view on who the filth is in this case...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

To people like this, if you're queer, you're not a real person. Because your soul is already damned. So they don't have to care what happens to you anymore.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Wants: high rate of child death via guns, incest babies, rape babies, women victimised for life, teens bullied to death

Does not want: people with their own lives or opinions that affect no one else on the planet.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Remember, conservative brains are literally abnormal. They have enlarged regions dealing with fear and disgust. They should be given special treatment, but not allowed to in charge of anything more complicated than a butter knife.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3572122/

This needs to be brought up daily till our republican buddies realize they are becoming a sub class of underperformed human.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

So basically Republicans operate based on fear, while Democrats operate cognitively

Shocker.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Yes! I have come to the conclusion that it is actually a medical disorder.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

What you're advocating for is authoritarianism and eugenics.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Er… no one mentioned eugenics but you.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Surely it's not a stretch to see how statements like "they should be given special treatment, but not allowed to [be] in charge of anything more complicated than a butter knife" leads straight into eugenics.

I hate to both-sides this, because the people covering up Nex's death are monsters, but discourse like this is nearly identical to the things the transphobes are saying.

We have to find solutions for these social problems that aren't authoritarian or lean into eugenics. In the case of trans rights, I think that's by appealing to peoples desire to have freedom of self expression.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Except we absolutely should corral and restrict conservatives. They're literally trying to kill us all. There's ZERO "both-sides" here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’s such a leap as to be almost satirical sounding.

We don’t let children be in charge of things, do we sterilize them?

I don’t even agree with the fact that they shouldn’t be allowed to be in charge of things, but the fact that you went straight to eugenics is on you, and quite obviously not part of the original posters intent.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The parent post says:

Remember, conservative brains are literally abnormal. They have enlarged regions dealing with fear and disgust.

This reminds me strongly of the pseudoscience surrounding phrenology and how that was used to discriminate against minorities.

Furthermore, the post goes on to say:

They should be given special treatment, but not allowed to in charge of anything more complicated than a butter knife.

This sort of language leads straight into justifying discrimination based on physical attributes. Advocating for the removal of self determination from political groups should always be given massive side-eye.

These transphobes' ideologies need to be rejected on their merits, not by saying, as one of the replies says, "this needs to be brought up daily till our republican buddies realize they are becoming a sub class of underperformed human."

This is more than flirting with the language of eugenics.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In this case, the changes to the brain are due to ideology, and the way they think is quite literally different. It’s also been shown that it can be reversed.

It’s similar to the way porn addiction changes the way you perceive the world. Everything becomes a trigger, everything is sexualized. In the conservative mind, everything is out to get them.

Now, does that mean they should be hunted down and culled? Of course not, because that’s insane. Just like we don’t hunt down addicts, ADHD individuals, or dyslexic individuals. All of which have abnormal brain changes that can somewhat be measured with scientific tooling.

But I feel the need to point out, ADHD individuals are barred from attaining a pilots license without going through more rigorous testing to show they are up to the task. Yet we let any old village idiot run the government.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

I'm not arguing what to do with conservatives, I'm pointing out the authoritarian language being used here as hypocrisy.

You can't ever truly get rid of undemocratic elements of a society while remaining democratic, because the only way to do so is undemocratic.

In the fight against fascism we must preserve democracy. I want accountability for these people, but not through vigilante justice, or authoritarian government actions. Remember how terrible it was when Trump separated refugee families at the border and ICE intentionally didn't keep records to prevent families from being reunited later?

If we empower the government to do that sort of thing to undesirables, it could be used by fascists or otherwise authoritarian figures to punish those who disagree with them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They are a danger to society.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That's the same thing that Nazis say about undesirables.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That's the same thing we say about Nazis.

Conservative politics are not a race, so equating these comments to eugenics is kind of dumb. People choose to have political opinions, but don't get to choose their race.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Looks like we might have found the Nazi interloper

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm all for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

😬 this isn't removing the filibuster .. legitimate argument for "what about when the tables are turned?"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you dont allow Nazis to exist the tables can't turn.

You people ALWAYS argue from the standpoint of defending Nazis and pretending they'll be nice when they get control if you're nice to them.

You dont know who you're dealing with.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why does everyone always pick me to yell things I don't disagree with on here? I made a comment that creating a weapon like that would be dangerous in anyone's hands. What does that have to do with giving Nazis an inch?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Most of the time I hear that argument it 's always "if we do that, they'll do it back when they get power, so we shouldn't do that!" People act wildly surprised that fascism is on the rise, but try telling them that the fascist talk shows saturating our airwaves need to be stopped and they'll say you're the real fascist for stifling free speech. NEVER have I heard any of them say "yes, we need more socialist and leftist options in broadcast media." They'll tell you that it's about money, but who is funding fascist radio?...not the listeners.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The alternative is a regime of idiots. Pretending that religious and conservative people have the full mental capacity is not getting us very far. Trump and his supporters are a perfect example. These people are fucking hypnotized and dangerous in their idiocy. They should 100% not be allowed to make important decisions.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

And i'd like to fight him and beat his teeth into his throat . I hate this people so much.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

"I did not mean that Conservatives are generally stupid; I meant, that stupid persons are generally Conservative" John Stuart Mill

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So much for the "love thy neighbour shit"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

They never meant it anyway

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

The ten "suggestions" are woke propaganda. /s

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Can we give Oklahoma to Texas when they secede?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why let them take an entire piece of land and further ruin the lives of countless present and future generations?

Push all arseholes into the ocean and call it a day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And anger the orcas??

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Naw, we'd be feeding the orcas

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

They don’t eat junk food.

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[–] Scubus 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As someone that lives in Oklahoma because I can't afford to leave, yeah fuck that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Of course, with resettlement aid for those that would prefer not to, you know.

[–] Scubus 2 points 5 months ago

Quickest 180 ever, hell yeah I'm down

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Nope, we don't want that filth near our border.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You know that whole "dumb Texas" bit that Patrick does? That's Oklahoma to us.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So…. That’s not a “no”…

And kind a makes me go …. “Good!”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Shit, you drive a hard bargain

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

"The United States of Texas and it's own dumb Texas"

Not sure, it doesn't roll that smoothly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Thankfully, God hates christians and will hurn every one of those motherfuckers to a charred little wad

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

He was looking in a mirror when he said it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Have you read their policy papers on projection? It's a fundamental component of their strategy 😜