Warp lost me at the account requirement. You're telling me I need to sign in to a terminal? Seriously? Like with an internet connection? Nope. What if I'm opening my terminal to configure my network? Warp seems to be fixing a problem that doesn't exist. I don't think anyone has looked at a terminal emulator and gone "Yeah, this could use AI and a cloud account".
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"Alright, now that I'm logged in to my cloud terminal account, let me enter my root password for sudo."
Not just that, they want an email just to get a download link. Call me when someone forks it with local AI.
Wait. An email just to get a download link AND a cloud account. Fuck that.
I would definitely like an AI to remember some complex commands for me. But something small and specifically trained that runs locally
I use fuck
, it's not ai but gets the job done.
You can define a bunch of aliases in any shell environment for that. Or use a history manager (a database client essentially) that groups commands you've entered so far based on frequency, return value, working dir. when they were issued etc.
I agree with this 100%!
My thoughts are you can fuck the fuck off.
Totally agree. People using cli are probably more skilled and their knowledge has been fed into these ai models.
So we will all end up with some mediocre level of knowledge, because the next input for the LLM 's will be more of the some old stuff. Flattening the curve and less innovation and smart ideas.
These kind of "solutions" are for a non existing problem. Looking at the investors, this is only about making money.
People using cli are probably more skilled and their knowledge has been fed into these ai models.
I am not skilled at all. I only use it because I hate Microsoft and Apple more.
AI that can auto generate all those command line arguments I keep forgetting? Sure.
Closed source terminal that requires account? No way.
And also, like... Data privacy... My terminal commands and command outputs contain sensitive data. Even company sensitive data. I don't want to be liable.
Absolutely not. And they can fuck right off with that whole needing an account to use a terminal thing.
To help make skittish people feel at ease with the concept, why not give it a friendly on-screen avatar? Perhaps something like a cute little animated paperclip.
I dunno. Maybe an orange dog? Give it big brown ears.
Also animate it at ~10fps, making it visibly sad when it can't retrieve the files you ask for.
Throw in a little whimsical wizard while you're at it.
Purple monkey or bust
You are onto something here...
I have zero interest in having AI in my terminal. And needing an account to even use warp is a non starter for me.
So,
This is a proprietary and therefore untrustworthy terminal in a space where virtually all the competition is libre/open source.
It's connected to the cloud, therefore insecure and privacy-invasive as there is no reason for something as basic as a terminal to be connected to the cloud. Who wants their SSH keys leaked? Anyone?
They require an account but don't collect data? Sketchy to say the least, a unique account is the perfect tool to collect data and there is no reason a terminal, the most basic interface to the underlying OS should require an online account. It should be tied to the system. (After further reading, apparently they do collect data by default).
It has a built-in AI autocomplete, because apparently normal auto complete isn't good enough (just wait until it tells you to rm -rf /*).
Yeah, no matter how nice it is, I will never accept this terminal.
EDIT: They also forked Alacritty to create a "demo", they took advantage of a libre/open source project for their proprietary terminal and never did so much as thank the authors of Alacritty. That's scummy.
AI can be neat, but this is a solution looking for a problem, like most AI things.
I'm neutral towards AI, what I can't wrap my head around is forcing users to sign in / sign up to use offline apps. Fuck you too, Postman.
For me to even consider using AI in my terminal, it'd have to meet a couple of requirements:
- needs to be open source
- needs to be run without network access
- needs to be an extensible utility to any terminal program.
(And that's off the top of my head.)
Big fat N-O
The terminal seems like the very last place I’d want A.I. I’m usually using it specifically to be precise and don’t just run commands I don’t understand. If you forget some long command, just use history |grep whatever and see what it was. (And then turn it into an alias or function.)
What's my thoughts? My thoughts are FUCK relying on the internet for basic things. So no "AI terminal" for me. This is yet another way to mine data cloaked in futurism.
Sounds like a major security risk. All it takes is one "hallucination" (and an overly trusting engineer) from the latest and greatest bullshit generator to compromise an entire network
Yeah. Sometimes a "barrier to entry" on running commands serves as an important forced pause to help prevent people from charging headfirst into dangerous options they don't understand.
It's something I often have to consider at work. It's not too hard to script out ways to make it easier to do certain things, but is the trade off of making it easier to do accidentally or without understanding the full effects worse than the hassle of doing it the "hard way"?
Yes, let's get a list of all machines in this network segment, then loop through sending shutdown commands so everything is ready for the hardware move!
What do you mean that the switch itself is in the list of machines? And that I just shut it off prematurely, so now we need to shut down everything locally... shit.
(Details fudged to protect the guilty)
Nice idea for fun and diversity (you can't prohibit people to make such apps after all) but in daily usage? No, no, no and no
Maybe if you can use it with a locally running LLM server like ollama, but otherwise fuck no
Here's my opinion. This terminal app is inefficient as fuck. I feel like it's too much bloat for what a terminal should be. She'll Completions have existed since forever, I don't get what's bringing new with that. And all these AI's that just resell chatgpt are getting expensive. "Please pay me 10$ a month to have OpenAI in your " . If I were to activate all the AI subscriptions in all the apps I use it would go over 100$. If I need ChatGPT I will just go on their website and get it from there. It's even cheaper that way, 20$ for unlimited use.
And also sharing info with your team THROUGH THE TERMINAL? WHAT KINDA SHIT IS THAT. That should be documentation in THE REPOSITORY, IN THE PROJECT. You're just fragmenting information, and it's going to make it harder for you to keep it up to date and for people to find it.
Kitty terminal with my zsh plugins are far better than asking me for an account on your terminal.
Bad idea
DO NOT WANT!
Local AI.
To complete complex commands.
Make ne feel like taking to a Star Trek ship computer.
I don't like generative AI in my tools. The little prompt that explains a command and arguments that can be passed as you type is nice, I will give it that, but AI should not be any part of it. Fuck right off with it.
Well that's a new way to rm -rf /
No thx
So I took some time to look around and as far as my perspective as a non dev regular user. While this does seem like a useful tool that could be useful for someone who interacts with the command line on a infrequent basis, the drawbacks on it seem pretty big.
- Everywhere on their website seems clear that they don't store your data, but I have trouble believing that? Why on earth they would need for you to create a account that you must log in to use the terminal if they don't have a need to monitor your data?
- While they claim that they are intending to monetize this by charging enterprise users and letting small teams use it for free, they limit free requests to 20 per dday which seems less than useless.
- Maybe this is just some confusion since I don't have any experience as an enterprise but it seems like it would be an unacceptable security risk having a program that it telling you that it sends telemetry back home that users are interacting with using sudo and elevated privileges. Especially when it is a closed box.
Ignoring all the reasons to be cautious and skeptical about AI in general I struggle to see the use case for this particular tool.
I think AI exposes how little trust people have in Capitalist organizations.
Shouldn't be too hard to make that run locally. Although I'm not sure what I'd use it for at the moment.
Although I’m not sure what I’d use it for at the moment.
How do I find all instances of "blarg" in the second column of this CSV file?
I could see it being useful - but I wouldn't want it integrated to my terminal. I'm fine with it being a separate thing I can use.
There are lots of fish shell extensions, zsh stuff and loads of things that make suggestions, autocomplete, remember your shell history and remember frequently executed commands and visited directories. All of that works WAY better than the AI suff. (And sometimes also has nice pop-up menus.)
So compared to plain bash without autocomplete and Ctrl+R it may be useful. It is probably a step back for everyone else. Especially if they roughly know what they're doing.
But I didn't try this specific software. Maybe I would if it were free software and connected to a local LLM.
Hell no! I absolutely do not want AI in anything if it's not running entirely locally.