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One of the only things I find myself missing about reddit is the videos. I'm aware that it's not really feasible for videos to be hosted on a lemmy instance at the moment, but I'm curious if that might change

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wouldn't it be better to integrate with the existing federated video hosting service? (PeerTube) so basically host videos in PeerTube, link to Lemmy, make the Lemmy UI parse it as a video with a custom player

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm still pretty new here so i don't know how that works, but I just want to see the random crazy person or fight video between memes and news stories

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OP knows what they want, and I respect it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

See this is what lemmy and being in a community is all about.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Does PeerTube distribute load across instances, like BitTorrent? Or does it assume that the hosting instance has enough bandwidth to support all concurrent users?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It uses WebTorrent for distribution between viewers watching at the same time which can temporarily help with the load on popular videos, but there still needs to be at least one source instance that's sharing the video "regularly" (for unpopular or old stuff), which ends up having the same bandwidth issues you'd get with any other video platform.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Oh, cool. I expect that means that bandwidth costs should scale sublinearly in number of concurrent viewers of the same video — so 1000 people watching the same video should cost less in bandwidth than 100 people watching 10 videos, or 10 people watching 100 videos.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

PeerTube uses the WebTorrent protocol for its videos, so it does distribute load with everyone currently watching a video helping distribute it to everyone else. Each instance is its own torrent tracker. I'm not sure how I feel about it, because your IP address is visible to anyone else watching the video also.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I'm going to be honest with you, I have absolutely no idea how it works. And as far as I can see, there are very few instances at the moment.

Though someone smarter than me could probably answer you by checking the source code, or maybe they even have some documentation written already.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is the answer.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as automatic playback is not turned on by default!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Firefox blocks autoplay by default

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im on kbin and I get videos. Just had to add the endpoints to my no script.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Can you explain how to do this?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Embedded is what you're looking for I believe, it is currently an imposition (impedance) to host videos on a Lemmy instance.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I'm surprised there doesn't seem to be any way to display a video at least from another source. It's common on the mastodon side.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Weird thing is Lemmy is able to embed mp4 but couldn't for youtube. c/videos will be awesome with that embed feature.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Just curious, is it not feasible because of the storage space the videos would take up or something to that effect?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

They could just let us use embed code like this:

Doesn't have to be hosted on the instance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Storage space is one issue. Bandwidth (how many TB/mo goes out the server) is another. And for any "serious" use case transcoding would also be important (so you can keep the other two down for everyone except Apple users who are stubborn to adopt VP9/AV1, and to provide multiple quality options), which unlike the other two requires powerful hardware most instances do not have.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's the only reason why I keep on going back to reddit.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I really fucking hope not.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because it's a data hog for mobile users, but mostly because it's intrusive to the browsing experience.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

This should just be something that mobile clients can turn off by default.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So having an image/thumbnail with a "play" button is intrusive? I can see how some people might find it annoying (or perhaps even intrusive), but we already have embedded images which are exactly the same until pressed.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, embedded images are also intrusive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's fair.

In that case, perhaps you (if you find it annoying enough) could open a feature request ticket on your favorite app to "Add option to disable inline/embedded Media". It appears that you are not the only one with this issue, and I don't mind having a more complete user experience with more options.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If there's enough people that find it useful, it could at least be an optional setting. It's really a client thing, though, nothing to do with Lemmy itself.

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