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[-] [email protected] 160 points 11 months ago

The fact that people were registering .ml domains for projects like this is mindboggling. There are many TLDs to pick from without infringing on the terms of use of a country-specific one.

[-] [email protected] 59 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

My thoughts exactly. You should not be choosing TLDs that are volatile to upsets like this. Stick with the tried and true .com or .net, or one of the new TLDs that are not bound to a nation (unless you can comply with the stipulations) or particular type of organization.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago

Or if you absolutely have to, choose the TLD of a country you live in.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That works, too. I'm on lemmy.ca. Buying a .ca domain requires confirmation of citizenship or other qualification before you can even use it.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

Agreed. I went with lemmy.ca since I'm Canadian and the instance is in my country.

I also heard Lemmy should perform a little quicker for me too this way.

[-] savedbythezsh 22 points 11 months ago

No, practically speaking the domain name should have no effect on access time. DNS has so many layers of caching that as long as SOMEONE has accessed the website nearby (including you), the domain lookup will be local and therefore fast.

Anyway, DNS lookup times, even slow ones, are still not going to be noticable to the end use originally.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

No, I meant the instance itself. The server. The one who runs lemmy.ca is here in Canada with me.

It's like when playing a game; You choose servers closet to you for the lowest ping time.

The other reason I neglected to mention was I like to support local. 😎

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago

Even gTLDs aren't entirely safe. .dev is iffy right now because only Google can give those out and Google domains is going away.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

.dev was stupid from the beginning due to how many local domains like that...

[-] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Alright https://lemmy.zip it is!

Edit: No way someone already did it

[-] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

Hello there stranger. As completely factually appointed ambassador of lemmy.zip, I'd like to extend a warm welcome to all and am glad to see you've discovered our existence.

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

Dang I hope lemm.ee is safe. Hopefully Estonia doesn’t decide the same.

[-] [email protected] 51 points 11 months ago

Well, I'm an Estonian citizen at least 😅

[-] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

I didn't even consider .ee to be a country domain. I thought you used it for the catchy name.

That's pretty cool.

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[-] [email protected] 77 points 11 months ago

It'll be fun when Tuvalu decides to take back .tv

[-] [email protected] 67 points 11 months ago

1/12th of their national income is from .tv so they'll have sunk before that happens...

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

I believe they sold the rights to some US company who is now managing the tld.

They specifically decided to profit off the fact that's it's an attractive tld, unlike tld like .ly and .ml where the country never intended for their tld to get a wide use.

[-] [email protected] 53 points 11 months ago

Is there information about this situation with Mali government about ml domains? I cannot find anything about it.

Though apparently some ml domain receives a lot of accidental US military emails :).

[-] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago

Basically Mali took management of it back off Frenom.

[-] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago

Well, this is just weird. When I was migrating from Reddit to this fediverse world I chose .ml and thought it was short for "machine learning" which seemed as a cool domain for me at the time.

[-] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago

FYI, two letter TLDs are country/region/jurisdiction specific. There's an ISO standard for that.

  • .tv Tuvalu
  • .me Montenegro
  • .fm (Federation of) Micronesia

Some countries append additional modifiers to classify their uses:

  • .uk United Kingdom
  • .co.uk Company
  • ...

Three or more are generic (traditional or new)

  • .com, .net, .org, ...

In some cases, Uncle Sam said "first!" and it stuck.

  • .edu Education (MURICA)
  • .mil Military (MURRICA)
  • .gov Government (MURRRICA)

Just like what happens with Mali, what some silicon valley hipsters decide as a 'fun' acronym is just that, a fun thought. If the corresponding government decides to take away a specific domain, they probably can.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

.mil Military (MURRICA)

That is what made this whole .ml problem. Some people have apparently accidentally leaked American state secrets to Mali by typo.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's a poor excuse. If something is secret or higher it has a different TLD. The SIPRnet uses .smil for example. There are also tools at the boundaries that don't allow going from SIPR to NIPR unless they meet specific criteria. Basically you can only leak those secrets accidentally if they were already on a system they shouldn't have been on.

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[-] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago
  • .edu Education (MURICA)

.edu is not only american. For example I know many schools in France have .edu domains and emails, and I believe it's the case in many more countries.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

In 2001 it was limited to US educational institutions only, all registrations prior were grandfathered in.

Although I haven't got a clue why my non-US university, founded in 2009, has a .edu domain.

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[-] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

No, it's Mali.

The rumour is that lemmy devs chose it to mean "marxist leninist" but I think it's more likely they wanted a free domain name.

[-] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago

The rumor is fake, the devs have said it multiple times. If they would have wanted to do some funny Marxism meme they would have used .su

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[-] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago
$ whois lemmy.ml
WHOIS lookup for LEMMY.ML can temporarily not be answered. Please try again.
ERROR: domain not found:
$

But it's still in my DNS cache

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[-] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago

Sounds like it will if Mali decides to take back .ml as Gabon apparently did for .ga. background here https://domainincite.com/28814-millions-of-domains-to-be-deleted-as-freenom-loses-its-first-tld

[-] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

Thanks for the image, I didn't know FMHY had an official response, good to know they had backups....unlike me who lives in eternal danger.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

On the technical topic of renaming a domain of a Lemmy server... I think it is worth experimenting with the code. At minimum, I think it should be an option to try and keep the same login/passwords for users from the old install of Lemmy. But even that could prove tricky if a particular domain changed underllying ownership more than once - and user@domain became rewritten by an entirely different person. I guess in the real-world people do often get mail for previous residence of a house.

My biggest concern is legality because Lemmy claims to support privacy. I honestly think it's a bad idea to claim privacy because you run into so many problems. If the user never knows that their lemmy instance changed names and can't find it again, etc. Especially on technical topics, 15+ years of having Reddit keep messages from deleted user accounts offered a lot of great search engine hits. With Lemmy, a person moving to a different instance and deleting their account, so much content is going to get black-hole in favor of 50 instances having copies of a meme post or trivial website link - and solid original content (often in comment discussions) gets removed.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Certified Lemmy Moment

[-] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

*affect.

thanks for the humorous takes, but what's the verdict...? and what's the next step, download posts and settings and move elsewhere?

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