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[–] [email protected] 367 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm a fan of this. It's better to offer content with context and education than to fully censor it.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 9 months ago

100% this is the way things should be handled. If we get rid of or hide mistakes of the past, they will simply be repeated as people forget.

A note about historical context is an easy, and small solution to acknowledge the change in society without altering the original content.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Metal Gear Solid Master Collection did this as well.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What did they have to provide context for in the Master Collection?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

i think misogyny and incest

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Imma just be pissed if her tiddies ain’t triangles.

[–] p1mrx 29 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Trigolbitties

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

If that thumbnail is a screenshot of the remaster, then they're looking rather round to me.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But when will Nintendo start issuing those warnings for Mario games?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago (12 children)

This is fine, no issues really, but if you're offended by something in a video game fictional story that was made over 20 years ago you should go touch grass.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They did the same thing with the Destroy All Humans! remakes. Which was probably needed, because the Japanese level in 2 is really iffy

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

eh. i get the 'need' for these companies to have the disclaimers and i honestly appreciate that they are not changing anything here. but the mob is fickle and seemingly can't distinguish real life from the online life where being offended somehow gives them clout.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (12 children)

What stereotypes were in the games?

[–] [email protected] 94 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The stereotype that old British men are all butlers who get off on being locked in the freezer.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago

Indeed. Some of us prefer being locked in the pantry.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That’s not a stereotype.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (11 children)

Of course it isn't. I am clearly making a joke. lol holy crap this is happening every single day on lemmy now whats happening to this place?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

I think you were both making jokes

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 9 months ago

While Crystal Dynamics didn’t specify which content it’s referring to, it’s speculated that it could be the animalistic depiction of Pacific Island natives in Tomb Raider 3, who are implied to be cannibals.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There might be others, but The Dagger of Xian plotline in Tomb Raider II is a little "woo woo Chinese mysticism". You plunge it into your heart and turn into a dragon.

I'm not offended by it but I'd imagine that's not the kind of thing you'd write in a video game today.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Yet the Uncharted games exist.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

While Crystal Dynamics didn’t specify which content it’s referring to, it’s speculated that it could be the animalistic depiction of Pacific Island natives in Tomb Raider 3, who are implied to be cannibals.

Like the fictional Indiana Jones style villages? Or the real life North Sentinel Island Sentinelese? I'm scratching my head too...

[–] [email protected] 53 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The North Sentinel Island Sentinelese are not cannibals. They just want nothing to do with anyone not born on the island.

Which is a good policy to have, seeing as how the British genocided the rest of the Andaman Islands. They even landed on North Sentinel, kidnapped a few old people and children, and then sent the survivors back as plague bearers. (this was in 1880)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

Yeah, it's getting pretty hard to be an isolated community anywhere these days. Looks like these guys in the nicobar islands may be fucked.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Dinosaurs without feathers.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Honestly I'm glad we've moved from "Censor out anything that might be slightly objectionable" (Like they did with Sam & Max for example, and I believe the GTA Trilogy got hit with a bit of this), to "Look the game is old and from a different time, what society deems acceptable is always changing, deal with it or move on."

I'm so beyond tired of being told I can't have a steak because a baby can't chew it. I actually bought this three pack solely because it didn't censor Tomb Raider, a game I was very sure they were going to censor

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Genuinely struggling to remember what that could even be about.

I mean, it's been like 25 years since I played them, but I don't recall any obviously bad things in there. It's not like it was filled with old Jackie Chan film levels of cartoon racism.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The voice acting has quite a range of stereotyped accents. Nothing they say is overtly racist, but the over the top accents themselves are insensitive.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Oh, OK. So more George Lucas than Tintin in the Congo.

[–] HerbalGamer 13 points 9 months ago

I think there were some "jungle tribe" type enemies somewhere but don't quote me on that

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This is perfectly fine, its how they did it for the old Looney Tunes DVDs.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

And is what they should do rather than trying to delete it.

Provide context so that future generations can enjoy what's good about the media and acknowledge how parts of the content/media are problematic and not appropriate.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

Something I and probably everyone else forgets is that Looney Tunes was made in the 1930s and 1940s, not the 1990s.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Much better then censoring the original content. Should also give a warning for dangerously sharp tiddies!

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Lo Wang has entered the chat.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

didn't need to be news does it?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

I'm glad they did that, change on a remake or something, I don't recall if they actually did it for Anniversary since it was still a ps2 game, but if games are art they should be preserved as they were, this is just a remaster that you can even play with the old graphics if you want.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Isn't this what the ESRB rating description is for? We label games M for Mature if there's swearing, blood, violence, and sex, but not for insensitive cultural stereotypes?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Neat, I'm with everyone here when I say this is the much better solution.I'd prefer it to be a bit more clear of a warning and a bit less of a company apology so people who do need the warnings such as younger kids are informed and not immediately put off by playing something almost immediately presented as 'inexcusable'.

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