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13-year-old boy fatally shot man whose leg was blocking aisle of bus, Denver police say (apnews.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Denver police have arrested a 13-year-old boy accused of fatally shooting a man whose leg was blocking the aisle on a public bus.

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[–] [email protected] 147 points 10 months ago (66 children)

Why does a 13-year-old have access to guns?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Bad parenting.

[–] [email protected] 143 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (47 children)

It's not just parenting. There are crap parents worldwide, yet this only regularly happens in one place.

E: downvote all you want. Remove my comment if you want. You know it to be true. This is a US thing. Stop worshiping your guns.

And if you are to have them, keep them in a safe, inaccessible to children, when not in use. The fact that this is a controversial statement to Americans is insane.

You can't just handwave away gun problems as "oh it's the parent's fault, nothing can be done"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I talk about how much America loves guns and it's military and I get downvoted all the time. And I say that as a left-leaning armed American.

Sorry that facts hurt people's feelings. We literally had school shootings involving kindergartners a decade ago and nothing has changed. Nothing.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (13 children)

I had my own gun and access to guns as a 13 year old. Hunting, target practice, etc. It's not an insane age to have firearms.

That said, I was raised to respect the fuck out of the danger inherent in a gun, and I used mine to kill deer for food, not kill people I had a mild disagreement with.

Edit: Well fuck me for being born into a different environment ig. Mass downvoting someone for offering a different perspective is healthy for an online community /s

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I got beat regularly, and my stepfather at the time used to do stuff like make me wait in the basement for 30 mins, then he'd slowly walk down the stairs with his belt unbuckled so we could hear the jingling in each step, then he'd tell us some scriptures and say this hurt him more than us.

Then if you cried right away it was faking, but if you held on too long it was you being rebellious and stubborn, so my brother and I learned to start faking our cries after the 6th or 7th hit.

I told that to friends as an adult as what I thought was a kinda funny story, and they properly realized I was abused in a somewhat sadistic way and pointed it out to me.

They weren't calling me out for having a different environment, they were correcting my incorrect belief that it was normal or acceptable.

People are doing the same for you. You made it out safely, but giving unstable teens access to guns is definitely a risk that probably shouldn't be taken. Survivor bias isn't an excuse to say it's fine.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Well fuck me for being born into a different environment ig. Mass downvoting

Are you sure that is the reason? Maybe it could be that posting that 13 is a good age for gun ownership in a thread about a 13 year old who used it wildly inappropriately? You are entitled to think what you want, I just personally find it a little distasteful everytime there is a gun death to make justifications about the system that allowed it to happen. I imagine others agree.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

absolutely insane age to have access to a gun unsupervised lmfao

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

It is legal to hunt at 12 years old in some states.

Edit: I bought enough trigger locks for all my long guns and pistols for under $100. There is no excuse not to have them installed and I live alone. My guns are also in a locker as well as trigger locked. My ammo is in a different room in a safe box screwed to the closet floor from inside the locked box. All this was well under $200 including the gun locker.

[–] otp 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I need to get some sleep. I read that as

It is legal to hunt 12 year olds in some states

And thought this 13-year old had a gun after the age he needed it for protection...lmao

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

America.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (7 children)

“Hopes and prayers, constitution ties our hands, we’ve done all we can do, it’s the parent’s fault, he played too much red dead redemption, if all the bus passengers had guns this wouldn’t have happened….”

Start taxing the SHIT out of ammo, Chris Rock had a great idea, we just need to make it law.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Modern countries did that with gas, and you don't see us all driving about in fuel efficient cars instead of tiny-penis truc... Oh wait, as you were