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Gekkoster at 2024-01-31 17:15:13+00:00 ID: kob0mnl
There is no law against agreeing on having unpaid training. It would be against pretty much any collective union agreement, and therefore usually not a problem in Danish contracts.
So depending on the agreement you had with your employer, this might be lawful. If however you did agree on pay beforehand, and this did not include nonpaid training you might have a case.
But in the end, you will need to speak to a lawyer or your union.
Particular-Tone2111 (OP) at 2024-01-31 17:19:59+00:00 ID: kob1gxe
Hi, i don't have any clause on my contract regarding, the non payment of training hours. So i guess general law is applied, right?
TheRealTormDK at 2024-01-31 17:25:45+00:00 ID: kob2hx5
We don't have laws like that here. It comes down to your contract and what you as an employee agreed to, ideally in writing. (since it's harder to prove verbal agreements, even if they are as binding)
Particular-Tone2111 (OP) at 2024-01-31 17:54:37+00:00 ID: kob7ohh
I see. I don't have nothing in my contract regarding the hours spent on training.....
CrateDane at 2024-01-31 19:35:48+00:00 ID: kobpv6l
In that case it would probably be hard for your employer to argue that those hours are unpaid. But only a union or lawyer could tell you for sure, and you'll need them anyway to handle the case. Union membership is a very good idea, though it isn't cheap (but at least there's a tax deduction). Many employers try to take advantage of foreign workers.
Particular-Tone2111 (OP) at 2024-01-31 19:43:58+00:00 ID: kobrckn
Thank you for your help, i think is the best solution is to go through the union.
Appreciate
Gekkoster at 2024-01-31 17:27:11+00:00 ID: kob2r8p
I don't know what you mean by "general law" - what law are you referencing?
Particular-Tone2111 (OP) at 2024-01-31 17:53:52+00:00 ID: kob7jnc
I've seen here :
That all the hours spent on training must be payed like a normal working hour. In my contract there is nothing written agreeing with having unpaid training hours
Gekkoster at 2024-01-31 18:17:19+00:00 ID: kobbpcy
I am no lawyer, but the law states
§ 11. Skal en arbejdsgiver i henhold til EU-retten, dansk lovgivning eller kollektive overenskomster tilbyde en lønmodtager uddannelse med henblik på udførelse af det pågældende arbejde, skal uddannelsen tilbydes uden udgift for den ansatte, tælle som arbejdstid i ansættelsesforholdet og så vidt muligt foregå i lønmodtagerens sædvanlige arbejdstid.
The first part limits when payment is mandatory during training, to training that is required by law or collective agreements
How this works out, in your specific case, I have no clue, as stated before, contact a lawyer or union.
Particular-Tone2111 (OP) at 2024-01-31 18:18:33+00:00 ID: kobbx73
I will contact the union. I appreciate your help. Thanks! 🙂
ThereIsAThingForThat at 2024-01-31 16:40:43+00:00 ID: koaulcg
If you are not a member of a union, you will have to contact an employment lawyer and file your own case.
Usually this is handled by unions in Denmark, not by state authorities (unless it is breaking a law and you call the police).
Particular-Tone2111 (OP) at 2024-01-31 16:44:54+00:00 ID: koavbo3
I'm not, but i guess i can become one. I'm working on the renewables area, wich union can i contact?
I guess if i have to contact a lawyer, maybe i spend more money with the lawyer than i will receive from the missing hours 😅
ThereIsAThingForThat at 2024-01-31 16:48:46+00:00 ID: koavzq1
I'm not, but i guess i can become one. I'm working on the renewables area, wich union can i contact?
That depends on what you do. The engineer, the cleaner, the lawyer, and the finance dude will generally belong to different unions even if they all work in the same business. Try googling your job title and union.
Whether the unions will help you with issues happening before joining depends, some will, some won't.
I guess if i have to contact a lawyer, maybe i spend more money with the lawyer than i will receive from the missing hours 😅
In Denmark the loser will generally have to pay the winners lawyer fees, so if you win that's not an issue.
LuckyAstronomer4982 at 2024-01-31 17:17:56+00:00 ID: kob13qe
Particular-Tone2111 (OP) at 2024-01-31 17:55:00+00:00 ID: kob7qwx
This looks like a big help. Thank you!