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Fain “is a real ‘STIFF’ who is selling the Automobile Industry right into the big, powerful, hands of China,” Trump wrote Sunday night on Truth Social.

“He bought into Biden’s ‘vision’ of all Electric Vehicles...

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[–] [email protected] 206 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Please, please, please let him start attacking blue-collar workers and unions.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Sadly I don’t think that will change any of their minds. Remember his comments on his “preference” of military folks not to be captured? Still has tons of support from the military population.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

I read that Biden is more popular among active-duty soldiers but Trump is more popular among veterans. Which doesn’t make sense to me. Trump is a draft dodger and they think he’s the most badass President ever. All he did was golf and tweet. What the fuck

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

He cheats like a motherfucker at golf too. A decent book called President In Cheat details what an absolute loser he is on the green. His tweets are riddled with typos and nonsense. (My typos are okay because I don't have a PR team and I'm not a "stable genius")

The man is a failure at everything he does except getting away with lying and cheating- and it's not because he's a criminal mastermind. Yet so many people worship him. It boggles the mind.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

The possibility that Trump could win is hampering recruiting, to the point that the services are now dropping graduation/GED requirements.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

but Trump is more popular among veterans.

...many of whom probably believe shit like this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

But that’s different! We only hate those that we attempt to bar from serving!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We'll never convince the die-hards. But the moderates can be swayed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yah, one only needs to swing the most moderate of one's opposing voters.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

And by-and-large, only to stay home. You don't have to vote for Biden, just don't vote for Trump.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ok, math is hard, but lower turn out is the only way Trump wins. So you should vote and not wanting Trump to win means you should vote for Biden. Third party votes are unfortunately a waste and actually help Trump by lowering the hurdle to win a majority in the state.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Please look at the broader context of my statement here. I'm talking about getting people who were on the fence about Trump but would've potentially voted for him to stay home, because they aren't super happy about him insulting their profession.

Yes, for people who are reasonable and sensible. But for those who aren't, then yes, I think they should stay home.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Remember when Tucker Carlson's text messages were released and he called his fans 'especially dumb....cousin fuckers'? Remember when they still revered him anyway?

Trump could probably be at a rally in the deep south in a factory and call them all a bunch of good-for-nothing lazy losers and they'd still vote for him. They'd probably say "He speaks his mind and doesn't care what anyone including us thinks. He's so badass!" or like I've actually heard more than a few times "He says dumb things that I don't agree with but I agree with his politics" which is ridiculous but it doesn't matter.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

I don't remember anything Tucker ever said. His face perpetually told me "I am lying with anything I say" and I just ignored anything that ever spewed after.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's crazy to me how many of my union brothers are right wing and willingly vote for politicians that are openly anti union.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I see the union guys in their maga hats in my store regularly.

I wonder if either they stumbled into their unions through family or if Trump is such a cultural phenomenon in rural America that they wear the hats to fit in around the homies and just don’t give much thought to politics. “I’ve been in this union through 4 Republican presidents and I still got my union. So what? Trump is cooo, he says what’s on his miiiiind. I like ‘at!”

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago

Biden blocking the rail strike didn't help solve any of that sooooo...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Unfortunately, this has been going on for decades.

see: Reagan Democrat

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"He's not talking about us."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Yep that is the thought process right there. It lets them shave off pieces till nothing is left

[–] [email protected] 107 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If only he was president in the past we could have some kind of record to judge him on... Oh yeah, he was.

https://www.epi.org/publication/unprecedented-the-trump-nlrbs-attack-on-workers-rights/

Tldr: Filled the national labor relations board with appointees who worked to roll back workers rights and hamper unonization.

Can't imagine why unions aren't a fan of his /s

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Honestly can't even imagine why he ever thought those people might endorse him...

Dude must be senile af.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Remember the Carrier plant he "saved"?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Yes, I do:

Trump advertised Carrier's Dec. 1, 2016, announcement that it would preserve about 800 jobs in Indianapolis as a decisive break from decades of U.S. executives capitalizing on lower labor costs overseas at the expense of blue-collar workers at home.

Four years later, it has proved to be nothing of the sort.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Remember that photo of him breaking ground at the foxconn megasite?

[–] [email protected] 56 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Shawn Fain speaks at UAW 2024 National CAP Conference 1/22/24.

The UAW is calling on all unions to set their next contracts to expire on April 30, 2028 and for a general strike on May 1, 2028 to reclaim May Day.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It Could Happen Here recently published a podcast episode about how this would work. Some people are upset with how far out the date it set, but it's a smart approach and provides the runway necessary for other industries/unions to sign new contracts.

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-it-could-happen-here-30717896/episode/general-strike-with-kim-kelly-127675688/

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

I'm a simple man, I see a Robert Evans podcast mentioned and I upvote.

Seriously though, it's good to see people thinking long term. We criticize the corps for only thinking of the next quarter (at the furthest) and then also criticize a guy with a well thought out long term plan?!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Thanks for this. I created a new post with a clip from the CAP conference and added the podcast link and summary. Should make it a bit easier to share the general strike call around.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Fain is massively based

[–] [email protected] 53 points 6 months ago (2 children)

selling the Automobile Industry right into the big, powerful, hands of China

This is the speech of a man who is very insecure about his hands. No normal person uses this vocabulary in this circumstance without some strong personal opinions on hands.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Look, his hands are massive for his developmental age, okay. Stop making fun of him for his hands. he's a toddler. those are some huge hands for a toddler.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

"They look like strong hands"

:(

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Neverending Story flashbacks

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Take my strong hand!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

No they don't.

He's no rockbiter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Does he drink a glass of water with both hands because they are weak or because he’s a toddler? We may never know.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Did they shrink further?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

In a scathing speech last week, Fain blasted Trump as a "scab" who if ever "worked in an auto plant, he wouldn't be a UAW member, he'd be a company man trying to squeeze the American worker."

Yep, he's a real champion of the little guy:

Donald Trump casts himself as a protector of workers and jobs, but a USA TODAY NETWORK investigation found hundreds of people – carpenters, dishwashers, painters, even his own lawyers – who say he didn't pay them for their work.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Why pay people the wages they've earned, when you could not? /s

ETA: that's a royal "you," not directed at OP

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

With Trump, it works the same way as loyalty -- everyone owes him, but he doesn't owe them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Man, I remember reading this article back in 2016. It stood out to me because it really exposed Trump for who he was pretty early on in all of this. It’s insane to think about all that has transpired since reading it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

Cry more. Worthless republican traitor swine.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Everything the man does is transactional. Support me and I'll support you (for a little while anyway). Fuck me and I fuck you

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The guy is 80. Let him talk his lungs off, he doesn't have much time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Let's hope that next big Mac is the straw that broke the camel's back

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

He's probably got plenty of time. That sweet, sweet presidential healthcare has every president since Ford making it into their nineties.

The catch is that those later years aren't necessarily coherent. That's the dangerous part with Trump.