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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Four-times-indicted former president Donald Trump has been successfully selling white Christian nostalgia, racism and xenophobia to his base. However, the Public Religion Research Institute’s massive poll of 6,616 participants suggests that what works with his base might pose an insurmountable problem with Gen Z teens and Gen Z adults (who are younger than 25).

Demographically, this cohort of voters bears little resemblance to Trump’s older, whiter, more religious followers. “In addition to being the most racially and ethnically diverse generation in our nation’s history, Gen Z adults also identify as LGBTQ at much higher rates than older Americans,” the PRRI poll found. “Like millennials, Gen Zers are also less likely than older generations to affiliate with an established religion.”

Those characteristics suggest Gen Z will favor a progressive message that incorporates diversity and opposes government imposition of religious views. Indeed, “Gen Z adults (21%) are less likely than all generational groups except millennials (21%) to identify as Republican.” Though 36 percent of Gen Z adults identify as Democrats, their teenage counterparts are more likely to be independents (51 percent) than older generations.

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[–] [email protected] 164 points 10 months ago (17 children)

I want this to be true with every being of my body. BUT….they’ve been saying this for years about each generation.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Same. I’m nearly 40, and I’ve been hearing this since before I could vote, and yet the GOP hasn’t been voted out of existence. If it were up to me they’d be purged from every position of power nationwide.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 months ago (3 children)

There were/are a lot of olds. They have dominated politics for a long time and have also not died due to being the first people to take advantage of modern medicine.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

first people to take advantage of modern medicine

I never considered that, and it’s a damn tragedy. We gave the most short-sighted generation the longest lifespan in human history 🤦‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, unfortunately they're also the leaded gas generation.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

I mis led. Made pant tast good. I stop eeting pant win led got took a way.

Car slow down to. Never drank gas but huf it alot win I was a teenajer. Dint hurt me and I vote so thare.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Weren't 2020 and 2022 record years for youth voter turnout?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

Shhh. Democrats can't keep ignoring issues important to young people if they admit young people vote.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Young people are generally far less likely to vote, so which way they vote is somewhat irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (7 children)

But Gen Z did have a higher turnout in 2022 than prior generations.

https://circle.tufts.edu/latest-research/gen-z-voted-higher-rate-2022-previous-generations-their-first-midterm-election

So it be smart to go listen to try and not only keep them at the table, to offer more chairs too.

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[–] BlueCollarRockstar 120 points 10 months ago (1 children)

“Gen Z adults (21%) are less likely than all generational groups except millennials (21%) to identify as Republican.”

Wow, this actually makes me proud to be a millennial.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It goes to show that those articles that shit on Millennials are just trying to create a division.

Gen Z, we've got your back.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

So do those of us in Gen X who remember being young. I'm just disappointed in my fellow X'ers who seem to be following "the older you get the more conservative"

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Gen Z needs to get out and vote and get their friends to do the same like their future depends on it, because it does.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

If your state allows it, sign up for mail in voting. Your ballot is mailed to you, and you have a month to fill it out, and drop it in a mailbox. We have it in CA, and I never miss a special election, primary, or general election.

https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/table-18-states-with-all-mail-elections

There are 18 states that allow general mail in voting

Many states allow college students to do absentee mail in voting.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s really an incredible data point. I am the king of the youth vote skeptics but, 2022 was a great year for young voters. I am cautiously optimistic that a generation of regular voters is coming of age. Most of what is wrong with our democracy can be helped greatly by broader engagement and participation. So much of the bullshit only works because nobody can be bothered to show up to vote for any office other than the president.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat 37 points 10 months ago (7 children)

My mom was saying how ridiculous it was to think of lowering the voting age to 16.

I said we don’t seem to have a problem with requiring them to become parents at that age, so I fail to see the issue. If you’re okay with forced-birth initiatives, how can you oppose voting?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

A 16 year old has more at stake than an 80 year old

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The common refrain I hear from older voters is that 16 and 17 year olds age idiots and don't understand the world. There are a lot of problems with this argument. Among them:

  • 1 or 2 years at that age does not magically result in most people becoming world-wise and informed. Many 16 and 17 year olds have just as good a grasp on voting factors as 18 year olds.

  • Like anything, perspective, awareness, and seeing both the bigger picture and the nuanced details often comes at very different times for very different people. To disenfranchise all 16 and 17 year olds just because a minority might be immature in grossly unfair.

  • Plenty of the older people who argue 16/17 year olds are clueless idiots, and the same people who keep voting for objectively horrible politicians, who blindly follow a political party like it's a sports team, and who vote against their own interests due to gullibly lapping up flagrantly bias and false 'news'. Their judgement is seriously flawed.

As a Gen-Xer I say let the 16 and 17 year olds vote too. Their voices should be heard.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

almost like they don't want everything going to shit, and finally realized that twiddling thumbs won't get rid of these dumbasses.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm still voting. They said if my generation got out to vote it would change everything. I don't see why that's different today, not that many of us are gone, and attrition hasn't sent too many to the right, I strongly believe my generations politik power is as strong as it ever was,, and I'm firmly aligned with Gen z. They need our support as much as we need theirs. Don't get complacent thinking the next generation will solve the problems.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

Not if they keep getting all their news from TikTok

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Some additional interesting points in the cited poll report:

  • Gen Z adults trend slightly less Republican than older Americans. More than half of Gen Z teens do not identify with a major party, but most share their parents’ party affiliation.
  • Gen Z adults are more liberal than older Americans. Gen Z teens are more moderate.
  • Gen Z is more religiously diverse than older generations. Gen Z teens mirror their parents’ religious affiliation. Gen Z teens are more likely than Gen Z adults to attend church or find religion important.
  • Most Gen Z Americans, particularly Gen Z Democrats, are more likely than older Americans to believe that generational change in political leadership is necessary to solve the country’s problems. Younger and older generations both express a lack of understanding across generational lines.
[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago (78 children)

It bothers me that younger Gen Zs find religion more important than older Gen Zs. I’d hate to see all that progress in abandoning religion reversed.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

If the demarcation point is adulthood, it seems reasonable to believe the “younger gen z attend church or think religion is important” probably shows more that their parents make them go than anything.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Hmmm that’s a good point, and I hope you’re right. I just shudder to think that all the conservative Prager U and “He Gets Us” indoctrination and propaganda might be working.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

I think that fundamentalist views come from a lack of knowledge of the religion itself. Seems kinda suspect that your pastor went to seminary and learned that historically the Jews didn’t come from Egypt but the land of Canaan, had zero cultural exchange with Egypt, and did the same things they called the canaanites evil for (looking at you sacrificing your daughter Jepthah), but with a straight face will preach the exodus and plagues to an ignorant congregation.

I was so Christian it became incompatible with modern Christianity, and I’m not the only one.

The truth doesn’t fear the light, or being asked questions and cross examined, and Christian’s fear nothing greater to the point they have to pretend the ultimate evil big bad is creating the questions, and not the lies they told us for centuries.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (4 children)

https://www.businessinsider.com/gen-z-gender-gap-young-men-women-dont-agree-politics-2024-1?op=1

But another article shows the males in the generation becoming more conservative. Heck knows it's the male fantasy of control driving the MAGA movement. Gotta keep the women, illegals, liberals, and the rest of the world under their control.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

*anyone with functioning brain cells might be the MAGA movement’s undoing

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