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[–] [email protected] 225 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (47 children)

Outdoor cat: "today I killed 300 birds and permanently altered the local ecosystem"

Indoor cat: "hehe I shit in a box"

[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago (29 children)

And so begins a new battle in the eternal war between Americans with indoor cats and others with outdoor cats.

It's pretty difficult to actually find an indoor cat in the UK. In the US it's common.

[–] [email protected] 109 points 10 months ago

Of course it is difficult to find an indoor cat, you only see them inside a house.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

I guess we in Finland are Americand now lol

We're more worried about the cats wellbeing though than the birds.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (10 children)

Which is fitting because, in the end, when the hell have the British cared about the fallout of anything they do

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Our cats are indoors. They used to be outdoors then some cunt shot one with an air rifle.

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 10 months ago (37 children)

The 1 to 4 billion animals killed by outdoor cats every year: X_X

[–] [email protected] 53 points 10 months ago (17 children)

Not to mention all the outdoor cats that are themselves killed or horribly injured.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I know a guy who went through 5 cats in a few months because he was getting them, letting them out, and they were getting hit by cars since he lives on a super busy road that has heavy semi traffic.

It really reminds me of that one joke "I keep having to buy a new car because my neighbors dog keeps eating it" " it sounds like you're just feeding cats to the neighbors dog"

Dude just didn't seem to grasp simple addition that his new cat + outside in a bad area = squish

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Realistically, outdoor cats don't travel much. They just hang out in their neighborhood, chill in their favorite spots, etc.

Cats have their territory and that's where they spend their time, doing cat things. It's just that an outdoor cat's territory isn't limited by walls.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 10 months ago (3 children)

There was a BBC documentary a few years ago where they gave GPS tracking collars to a bunch of cats in a neighbourhood and tracked where they went. Each of the cats had their own territory and favourite locations.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (25 children)

Murder local wildlife, cause property damage to neighbors, kill neighbors pets, spread disease. Roaming cats suck, and so do their entitled owners who think that everyone's property belongs to their pet

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 10 months ago

Working in the office vs working from home.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 10 months ago (86 children)

Cat owners who let their cats roam are irresponsible and entitled

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I love that the outdoor cat is missing an eye. A for accuracy.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 10 months ago (18 children)

I cannot imagine having an indoor/outdoor cat. I'd worry so much about them while they were away. And if they just disappeared and didn't return...I don't know how I could stand it.

We have 3 indoor-only cats. Obviously I'm pretty attached to them.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 months ago (2 children)

A stranger outdoor cat just walked with me for a few blocks on my way home from a dinner party. It was fun to have a five minute feline friend. It's sad to know they will very likely die long before my indoor cat of a similar age.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I dunno, sometimes my indoor cats step into the liminal dimension just to make me panic

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

Indoor cats still move a lot around the house, destroying stuff.

[–] wander1236 28 points 10 months ago (20 children)

We have 3 indoor/outdoor cats because we've just always had indoor/outdoor cats and I never really thought about it.

Being on more cat-related Reddit and Lemmy communities, I've seen more and more of the arguments for keeping cats as indoor-only, and it's been making me think more about how to care for cats we adopt.

From what I've seen of the discussions, a lot of them seem to center around urban areas and towns, where there's a high population density. Some arguments also seem to be based off the assumption that the pets aren't spayed or neutered.

We live in the middle of nowhere and all our cats are fixed as soon as possible (we've had kittens sometimes and they stay inside until then).

Is there different logic for this situation, or is it the same advice to always keep them indoors?

I'm genuinely asking.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Obviously there's the safety aspect of keeping them indoors, they usually live longer. Aside from that, they're also extremely efficient killing machines. The damage outside cats do to native animal populations is huge.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I suspect the middle of nowhere might be worse given that the wilife there might not see a lot of cats normally and could have more vulnerable populations. Probably depends where you live, but if it has rare wildlife you don't see much elsewhere your kitty is possibly bad news for them. Also depending on where you live the wildlife can be dangerous for tje cat too. Eagles and snakes are a worry.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Unless you live in the native original range for cats, and your local region has zero automobiles, and you have no issue paying vet bills for random illness or parasite infections, then sure. Its probably not that big a risk to let your cat out unsupervised.

Brits are very arrogantly incorrect about their cat care. They are driving local wildcats extinct, and feeding their pets to local foxes, badgers, and car wheels.

You can still supplement outdoor time for your cat tho. Harness/leash training isnt too difficult, just go in areas you dont expect dog walkers. And you can also build catios, outdoor spaces that are fenced in.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (28 children)

If you want to give your kitty companion the best shot at a long comfortable life, keep them indoors, it's as simple as that.
Leads exist, and so do catios and window boxes if you're lucky enough to have the space, they can still enjoy the sunshine and fresh air without risk of them getting run over, attacked by another animal/person, getting injured otherwise. I know I just couldn't bear it if my baby was outside all on her own and got hurt..

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (4 children)

This is, I think, the most passionate controversy I've seen on Lemmy.

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