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The 1 to 4 billion animals killed by outdoor cats every year: X_X
Not to mention all the outdoor cats that are themselves killed or horribly injured.
I know a guy who went through 5 cats in a few months because he was getting them, letting them out, and they were getting hit by cars since he lives on a super busy road that has heavy semi traffic.
It really reminds me of that one joke "I keep having to buy a new car because my neighbors dog keeps eating it" " it sounds like you're just feeding cats to the neighbors dog"
Dude just didn't seem to grasp simple addition that his new cat + outside in a bad area = squish
Sounds like Pet Sematary.
What, he was like "huh Snuffy hasn't been around for a few days. Welp, time to get a new cat I suppose!" every two weeks?
The only cat I've had that I've felt okay with letting roam was a stray that came to us declawed, so he was mostly harmless. We still ended up making him an inside cat because we caught him sneaking into the neighbor's house to steal their cat's food and poop in its litterbox.
Declawed cats are a coyotes favorite meal. Big enough to feed the kids and cant even fight back
Not a lot of coyotes in our neck of the woods, but the little orange moron kept writing checks with the neighbor cats that his disarmed front paws couldn't cash, so he was always coming back with scratches. One of the other reasons we stopped letting him out.
That is an oddly specific culinary preference for a wild animal to have.
Easy to catch fattened meals are a pretty clear cut preference
Is that how that works though? I don't know anything about Coyotes, but I know things generally know better than to fuck with cats.
.......... Are you asking if a coyote can eat a cat?
Do you understand they hunt deer? Theyre not really worried about a cat with clawless arthritis, horn and hoof wounds are much bigger threats.
Predators dont know better than to not fuck with cats, most of them know to grab them before they get up a tree.
No. I don't know coyotes. They hunt deer? In packs? Or are they large enough to do it solo?
I thought these things were like mangy dogs the size of, well, a mangy dog.
My point is, they wouldn't know the cat is clawless. I'd think most animals would give cats a wide berth, but then again dogs do chase them... Until they catch one and find themselves regretting it.
They wouldnt care the cat isnt obviously clawless, they would just thank their lucky stars when the cat cant climb a tree. Coyotes dont like clawed cats because they can get up the tree, not because the claws deter them.
A coyote is like a mangy dog in the same way a colt 45 is like a slingshot, in that they could both throw lead. Theyre smaller than wolves, but thats like saying "oh elk arent big, theyre smaller than moose," or "my truck isnt big, its smaller than a tank," or "oh my floodlights arent bright, theyre dimmer than the sun."
Most predators dont give cats a wide berth unless they arent hungry. But if the belly needs filling? Yum yum
But mangy dogs can't throw lead!
I thought coyotes would more be BB guns.
Also, do NOT underestimate the power of a slingshot and lead bullets.
I suppose like I should not underestimate the power of a coyote.
Although I am pretty sure that 1 on 1 I would take down a coyote in hand to hand combat. I think I could manage up to a kangaroo.
Unless you can bench press 3x+ your body weight, you would be a roo warm up. Even ignoring their muscle, they fight with 4 arms, each with claws as long as your pinky finger.
I do not underestimate a slingshot with any ammo, but I also dont underestimate dogs with mange.
And while coyotes are definitely a big deal for things smaller than us, we are big enough to give lone yotes pause. Wolves? Fuck, dude, wolves are huge. A lone sick wolf could kill you without effort. Thats a boar level threat. Wolf to coyote def makes the yote look like a sling shot
HAHAHAHAHA! That's the second out loud laugh I've had today! That's funny, not underestimating dogs with mange!
But the real joke is that you think I can't take out a kangaroo in solo hand to hand combat. I'm not talking the biggest ones, like maybe a smaller one, like a female or a youngling, but let's say if I'd be about the same weight class.
I'd move in so fast in and under and start grappling, ju jitsu it on the ground likely with a leg sweep and a throw, then move my way into a rear naked chokehold, just choke the sucker out.
I also think I can outrun a Komodo Dragon with a piece of raw meat strapped to me on a 5 meter length rope. I can outrun it without the rope, but for insurance reasons I'd rather not.
I am also (kind of) joking and only mean all of it in good humor. :)
Edit: Although... Getting into a kicking session could maybe kind of work. Kangs got range, of course, but let it come at me with one of those tail-standing-leg kicks and me countering with a mofunking low kick to its shins or the quads and see how it feels after that. I also think they might get tired quickly doing that shit, although they're wild animals so I'm not so sure.
Edit again: Also, don't forget that humans can also bite and gouge out eyes and headbutt and kick em in the groin, every groin equipped animal underestimates the kick to the groin.
Edit once more: Of course most importantly, humans can also love, and everyone underestimates the power of love.
Declawing is cruel. It's basically cutting off your first knuckle.
I would never do it to a cat, but when this particular one wandered into my then-girlfriend's house one night and decided he lived there, he was already declawed. He never seemed to suffer too badly from it, fortunately.
But what if he was a guest there? Maybe the neighbour's cat told him "make yourself at home?" Did you even ask him? Psh ...
We actually found out when my wife was over visiting, and he came in through the cat door, locked eyes with her, froze, and slowly backed out of the house. ๐
Absolute environmental disaster, they need to be spayed and neutered and occasionally culled by any competent local government.
You'll also need to ban pet cats from walking outside without a leash. Our cats were neutered, didn't stop them from killing any mice or birds they could get their paws on.
The reason they need to be spayed and neutered instead of outright killed is because culls don't really work on animals that reproduce that quickly. Whenever a spot opens up for another cat to make its territory, it gets immediately claimed. There are a ton of research papers that show spaying and neutering is more effective at lowering stray populations, and that euthanization is more costly on top of being less effective.
I was talking about the cats that are kept as pets, not stray cats. I guess it varies from country to country, but most cats walking around outside in Norway are pets (~90%). Reducing the stray cat population to zero wouldn't fix the issue of cats killing all the small wildlife unless pet cats are also kept inside.
I wasn't saying anything against neutering cats.
Wonderful plumage, Norwegian Blues.
I'd say we take this one step further and declaw, spay, neuter, and keep a lot of people on a leash.
Yup, fuck your outdoor cats.
Humans kill much, much more animals.