The MDHS State Disbursement Unit is the Child Support department. Dude went nuts because he doesn't want to pay child support. What a POS.
One of their biggest things they're always trying to do is "discharge" theur child support.
Yeah they are. But fun fact, garnishments and liens work just as well without an INTERNATIONAL TREATY and a surprising number of these loons still work and own stuff.
"I don't have anything to do with that kid! Why should I have to pay child support?"
Unfortunately I know people like that in real life, who don't seem to understand that the child support is largely because they want nothing to do with their kid
I only agreed to get my dick wet, your child support contract is invalid
“I DO NOT HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL TREATY WITH YOU” is about to be my go to line to get out of uncomfortable situations.
I still like, "YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR"
I love this assertion by them. Because it's them saying they are an independent nation. But they are living on or within the US's declared borders and do not have a treaty as the American Indians do. Therefore they'd qualify as invaders or secessionist and the US military/immigration authorities should have jurisdiction to prosecute them. Afterall, this Sovereign Citizen is currently abroad in another country.
I DO NOT KNOW WHO YOU ARE
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR INTENT
Bullshit. You know that mail is regarding the child support payments you're trying to weasel your way out of.
They are always asking how to "discharge" child support on the sovcit groups.
The best thing about sovereign citizens is they're the only ones not in on the joke.
And they so persistently do not understand why their BS doesn't work.
Honestly their BS does kind of work they just seem unable to grasp that all the things they're saying also apply to everyone else. They don't have to aknowledge their electricity providers authority to charge them for electricity and the electric company doesn't have to keep supplying it. Its like some kind of extreme narcisicm.
By and large, I think most of these people are just trying to get out of legal and financial obligations. I bet if a government agency sent them a check, they'd fucking cash it. But it's when they're required to pay money or complete the littlest forms that they balk. They are just bad scammers.
> Refuses to open letter
> I DO NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR INTENT
Ok, buddy.
"Not a US citizen"
Okay, so GTFO if you're renouncing your citizenship. And don't use any public roads or services as you're leaving...
If these people are not citizens of any country, they’d have to be deported to International Waters for not holding a visa right?
I know you’re just making a joke but statelessness is actually a huge headache for both the individual and Governments in dealing with them.
https://www.unhcr.org/about-unhcr/who-we-protect/stateless-people
Why do they always have the same handwriting?
It's the lead poisoning.
I think this person will find that they are very much a citizen of the United States of America.
Is this the kind of people who post disclaimers in social media that "unauthorize" the company running said social media from using the "content" they post there?
That motherfucker must feel so powerful writing that... stuff.
I mean the only other kick he's going to get is to the teeth by the feds, so I hope he's getting something out of it.
Should these “sovereign citizens” be arrested and put in illegal migrant camps the minute they set foot on public roads, or should we reserve that VIP treatment only for brown Spanish-speaking people?
Sovereign citizens are some of the stupidest dregs of society. It doesn’t even take proper legal training to realize how wrong and how stupid their statements are when they do this kind of garbage.
It requires such a weird pick and choose approach to the law to make these arguments and it just baffles me. Like who do they even expect to back them?
"Not a U.S. citizen"
Throw this ass clown out into international waters like they're DJ Jazzy Jeff overstaying his welcome
"All Rights Reserved"
But none of the responsibilities.
Also, "I'm only affected by international treaties because I'm a Sovereign Citizen" and "This correspondence is illegal duo to US law Title 18 1341&1342.”
Sovereign citizens are a hilarious little delight to break up the drudge that these times bring. There's always a balance.
AM I BEING DETAINED OR AM I FREE TO GO WHY AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED OR AM I FREE TO GO WHY AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED OR AM I FREE TO GO WHY AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED OR AM I FREE TO GO WHY AM I BEING DETAINED
I am assuming you posted this in jest, so forgive me if I've missed the bus, but these are actually very important things to ask for everyone when approached by LE. Charges get dismissed when they answer them wrong or inaccurately. I many cases, they do not have the right to withhold an articulable suspicion, so getting their lack of a response is extremely important, and these two questions are how you get that.
That said, people can also use them to be obnoxious, so I also assume that might have been the joke here. Sorry again. I'm very dense.
One of my favorite youtubers munecat made a great video on Sovereign Citizens and how the brain rot is going international
I do not know who you are and I do not understand your intent
My dude, the name of the organization and the stated intent of the letter is literally in the envelop you're writing on top of.
This very much walks the line between "sovereign citizen lunatic" and "needs to be committed to a mental institution." Although to be fair, it's a pretty blurry line.
Title 18 1341 covers fraud by US mail. I kind of doubt that official government agencies, with charters and legal authorities for operation, are committing mail fraud on the regular and that sovereign citizens are the only ones smart enough to peel back the veil.
Maybe the rest of us sheeple need to wake up.
I wonder what kind of protections and rights that sovereign citizens actually have. Non-US citizen resident aliens and tourists with Visas all enjoy some rights. Native peoples with tribal sponsorship have another set of rights. Sovereign citizens fall into none of those buckets as they reject the notion of obtaining permission to enter and reside in-country and they also apparently renounce citizenship if they had it in the first place. Does this mean that they fall into the illegal alien classification? As people with no country, where would they even be deported to?
I can't believe we forgot to sign a treaty with this fellow.
Hey, Blinken!!
I was about to say 'these people vote' but....do they?
Heck no, voting would create enjoinder merging the real person with the legal person and they'd have to write their name in all capital letters from then on and put a gold fringe on all their flags
Why did you just respond to me? I do not understand your intent.
I DO NOT HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL TREATY WITH YOU
They’ve used all the magical incantations they could find on social media while doing “research.”
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