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submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/10829773

Teams apparently can't call when using Firefox

Teams also doesn't support multiple "work" accounts, so I had to boot up a laptop to accept the call. 🤷

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[-] [email protected] 95 points 6 months ago

Exactly, this is how Microsoft operates. This time they gave an excuse they still allow plenty of other browsers (with the same engine). Google loves it, because it hurts Firefox and they can say they are not responsible for 3rd parties blocking sites.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is coordinated based on lessons learned with IE.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

As a bonus it gives companies that want to use or allow Firefox a reason to use Google Workspace because Google Meet works perfectly on Firefox.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

If they want to use Firefox, wouldn't they also want to use a FOSS meeting software?

[-] sugar_in_your_tea 2 points 5 months ago

My org actually uses both, as well as Slack. We use:

  • Teams - most meetings
  • Meet - some meetings w/ outside orgs
  • Slack - 1:1 and small group, impromptu meetings

I use the Teams and Slack apps, and Meet in the web.

[-] [email protected] 75 points 6 months ago

people using user agent switcher so they can use bullshit like teams probably introduces errors into the statistics so microsoft can claim most users use chromium anyway.

[-] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago

They're required to use a garbage app, but they're also not willing to drop their favorite browser. No choice but to compromise.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

A good user agent switcher should support per-site settings.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea 1 points 5 months ago

Right, but that doesn't change the fact that the site you use it on can gather statistics to show what the most popular browser is.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Well yeah, but it's limited to Microsoft Teams. All other websites will still see it as Firefox. Otherwise you would need to install some Chromium garbage on your system and use it for Teams. And guess what, that way, you would also show up as a Chromium user.

[-] [email protected] 71 points 6 months ago

Does it work if you change your user agent?

[-] [email protected] 63 points 6 months ago

Yep it does, funnily enough

[-] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

So it's just an arbitrary restriction as a "fück you" to people using FF

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Not the first time I've had that sadly

[-] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago
[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Could be using experimental APIs Chrome has, there are plenty of them.

This is the issue with one giant browser. They can make the "spec" what ever they want without any consideration of other browsers.

[-] [email protected] 66 points 6 months ago

Teams is shit in any form. Slowest app to launch on my M2 MacBook Pro, but it’s what we use where I work so I have no choice.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Should be better with v2, normally. V1 uses electron and an old angular version which both were slow as fuck and used a shit ton of resources. I also think electron doesnt support the arm platform yet? (citation needed).

Anyway, v2 uses react and a better webapp engine to run as an app so it should be faster. Not surprised if it still ran as shit though haha

[-] sugar_in_your_tea 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Still slow, at least on my Intel Mac.

And electron does support ARM, or at least it runs on M1 Macbooks. We use Teams extensively in our org, and we have a mix of M1 and Intel Macs, and we also have an electron app we maintain (and our QA uses an M1 Mac for testing).

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

It running on m1 macbooks is no sign of arm support as macos has a translation layer to translate x86/x64 to arm64. However, electron apparently has arm64 support on macos since version 10.
Electron is basically chrome and it shows lol.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea 1 points 5 months ago

It literally embeds Chrome in an application layer with a Node.js layer on top for application logic. So unless Electron maintainers royally screw it up (or a particular app embeds non-JS code), it should work on all platforms Chrome supports.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

They don't support Linux applications, they don't support the main Linux browser. They don't want you to use Linux

[-] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Extend and Extinguish. Why move when you can just usr our WSL? Get used to it, get reliant on it. Then we'll fuck you over.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea 1 points 5 months ago

That's so people who want/need Linux can stay on Windows.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Teams is very bugged...

[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago
[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I do teams meetings all the time.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

The issue is just for 1 on 1 phone calls, meetings seem to work fine.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah, I can get into meetings with Firefox, as I did yesterday.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago
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