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[–] [email protected] 141 points 10 months ago (4 children)

For anyone who can't find them... :D

[–] jballs 91 points 10 months ago

It's like the Where's Waldo of gay sex.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's interesting that only one out of the lot of them was (at least within the last 6 months) gay. All the rest with same-sex relations were bisexual (at least within the last 6 months).

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I might be explained by the fact that it's a lot harder to find a partner if you are gay and most of them outsource their search

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Probably more just that this was the 90s

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

And those are the few bisexuals. Because the gays... Well those are a complete graph basically.

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Damn I wanna know this guy's secret!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was just about to point that out!

What a machine

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

aph apparently is real

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A striking lack of single dots that should be hovering around these.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Would you consider that a romantic or sexual relation? Or both?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago

Depends on which hand you use.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The lines are relations. The dots are people.

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[–] Sabre363 51 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Surprisingly few gay relationships

[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's the midwest, so probably a lot in hiding

[–] 768 57 points 10 months ago

1993-1995 as well.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (3 children)

That one circular chain of people who seemed mostly to agree of having either two gfs or two bfs and never crossing another person in the chain...

[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

I kept looking at that too. It's crazy to me that there are only 2 cycles in the graph and one is the big accidental one. It honestly makes me think that either something must be wrong with the data, or it's reflective of some deep principle of math or sexuality (e.g. that people won't fuck around within their close social grouping nearly as readily as they will with people on the outskirts of it).

[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago

The authors wrote that they were surprised too and went back to talk to the students and apparently there was an unwritten rule that you don’t date the ex of the new partner of your ex. So if Bob and Alice split up and Alice starts dating Ben, then Bob should not date Ben’s ex Alison.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've spotted five cycles.

  1. The big boy.
  2. Six member cycle at the top of the big boy.
  3. Four member cycle with that guy who slept with nine girls.
  4. A second cycle with that same guy.
  5. That three way over to the right.

It's possible there's more but I'm pretty sure that's it.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 46 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

They'd have to lie about who they slept with, and I expect the other person might have something to say about that if it was not true.

I wonder if they verified each claim from both sides.

Edit: it's a scientific paper, so there's no need to wonder!

In fig. 2, and in all discussions presented here, all romantic and sexual relationship nominations linking students are included, whether or not the nomination from i to j was reciprocated with a nomination from j to i.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

whether or not the nomination from i to j was reciprocated with a nomination from j to i.

Oh, so there was no bullshit filter

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

These aren't all sexual relationships. So if someone says "I had a crush on X", maybe there would be a line. Even if X did not have a crush back. Maybe one date is enough for a line.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (3 children)

There are 6 people who've had gay sex that I could find and all but one of them are bi (or at least bi-curious). That seems like a statistical anomaly.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago

It's a 90s high school, somewhat rural and religious, according to the article. Either there really were few homosexual relationships there, or the students didn't want to reveal them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (5 children)

You think?

I think people feel liberated to say they're gay these days, so there are much more people claiming to be gay than in previous decades. On the other hand, there's still a lot of homophobes and also quite some biphobes around, so there's probably a lot of bi people that present as hetero or even gay.

I'd assume that most people are at least a little bi, and that they'll try that out in high school even if they later decide they won't pursue it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not long ago I saw a woman's profile on tinder in NYC that said "No bi men". I guess it's good that she put her phobia right out front like that.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I’m a 90s kid, with a stepsister the same age (who grew up in a Massachusetts college town, at that). When I was in college, I dropped my then boyfriend’s ex’s name in a conversation with my dad and stepsister (he was out already and didn’t make a secret of anything, he was cool with it, I swear). My stepsister asked all shocked if I knew he was bi when we started dating and then explained that she’d never date a bi guy, because she could never “be sure”. My dad made a boomery joke and said something noncommittally biphobic.

I’m so grateful I had that conversation before I came out to my family. I’m bi and an afab egg. I just married a bi man, and I told him pretty early on that I don’t know what the situation with my gender is yet. His response was “that’s why we date bi people, we like all the situations,” which had never occurred to me (sometimes I’m dumb), but it was a perfect level of humor and acceptance for the moment.

I’m sorry, this was a super long and mostly irrelevant comment. I intended to agree that biphobia is present in the people and places you’d least expect, even when straight up homophobia isn’t (stepsister was a member of the gsa and loved pride parades)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

The line does not necessarily mean they had sex.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

ience_memes@mander.xyz-10839295 They live in their own world..

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

There are 63 dedicated couples, nothing more

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago

Why are there 2 horizontal parallel lines instead of just one with a 2 bellow it?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is actually very interresting. I always found it hard to understand how some people can have so many sexual partners, and then there are people with very few of sexual partners. I had this theory that there must be some subculture of people who are really into this, date eachother in this group which causes their number to increase abnormally. It was just a silly theory but this sort of supports it?

[–] ricecake 38 points 10 months ago (3 children)

If you look at this a little closer, you'll notice that there aren't actually that many highly connected nodes.
The big structure is mostly composed of single link chains.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

I'm surprised to see that a few people have had 5 or 6 sexual partners while in high school.

Edit: missed the guy with 9!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sexual or romantic partners.

I “dated” a classmate for a month at 14 until he wanted me to sit on his lap and I broke up with him because I felt like I’d be too heavy but didn’t want to admit that, so I didn’t know how to talk to him about it.

If you’d asked me at 14, if he was a romantic partner, on god I’d have said yes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

I believe it’s the most embarrassing story I’ve put online, so thanks lol

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

People in the comments straight out believing all of it are sex relationships... Read the paper, or at least the headline.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Wow, that's literally not me.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

some of the subtrees here made me say "wtf is going on here"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There is not nearly as much gay sex on this chart as I would've guessed. Just the one bi girl hookup in the second from the right tree at the top. Actually is that a threesome or do you think they just all screwed at different points in time?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Well it is a 20 year old study. Attitudes towards LGBT people were much less accepting back then. The participants in this study are now between the ages of 34-38 most likely. Probably a lot of people in the closet and keeping their relationships discreet or not having relationships, and some that haven't realised that they're gay yet.

If you did this study today, there would be a lot more gay sex, but probably less than we'd guess still. LGBT people are still a minority after all.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The relationships were from 1993-1995. Everyone in the graph is in their late 40s. So everything you said about attitudes is probably just more true.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Why is one ring of the fuckgraph shaped like a prolapsed anus?

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