this post was submitted on 17 Jan 2024
412 points (94.8% liked)

politics

18651 readers
3589 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
  2. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  3. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  4. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive.
  5. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  6. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

“ Donald Trump lashed out Tuesday at a pair of cable networks not named Fox News for their decision not to air all of his Iowa caucuses victory speech as it happened, suggesting that what they did was so heinous that they should “have their licenses, or whatever they have, taken away.”

Dictators gonna dictate.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 146 points 7 months ago (5 children)

CNN and NBC will both breathlessly cover the Trumpification of America—their anchors and field reporters squealing about how exciting it all is—right up until the moment when a Trump FCC that does not give one shit about the law, starts shutting down their facilities. Only then, when its way too late and they’ve lost their platform, will they realize that fascist takeovers aren’t a fucking game to be covered like celebrity dating drama.

[–] [email protected] 124 points 7 months ago (1 children)

CNN is literally following their own 2016 election playbook giving him non-stop coverage and downplaying any risk he poses to the constitution and democracy.

Fuck CNN.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 7 months ago (1 children)

CNN was bought out by a right wing billionaire.

They were barely centrist beforehand, and now they're sliding subtly further and further right-wing in their reporting.

https://www.vox.com/2022/8/26/23322761/cnn-john-malone-david-zaslav-chris-licht-brian-stelter-fox-peter-kafka-column

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/10/objective-cnn-rightwing-week-in-patriarchy

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

One of those pieces of shit was literally quoted saying fox fucking news was a good model to follow... That they have "real journalism" surrounded by opinion shows...

Yeah guy, and if you paid any attention at all you'd know that Fox viewers HATED the real journalists like Shepard Smith because he had to actually read news and not orders handed down as to what to say...

CNN is just going to be Fox lite soon enough... Just what we needed. Not one less propaganda outlet, but one more terrible one...

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 70 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They wouldn't cover his speech, but they'll all run this story about him complaining about that...

Which is effectively the same thing, and even better for his supporters because this will be spun as "corrupt media can't silence trump, he's too strong!"

If you're going to ignore a troll like trump, you have to commit. Giving in later because the troll keeps insulting you just makes it look like they were able to drag you into it.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 7 months ago (7 children)

I overheard a FOX broadcast last night while waiting for a pizza pickup in their lobby.

Holy crap that is awful. I remember it back in the GWB days and I don't recall it being nearly as bad as it was last night.

"Democrats don't want to understand you. They just want power." followed by cherrypicked video footage of out of context comments from some random person. "If the Democrats get in charge, they will outlaw jesus!" followed by more bad faith video footage where someone said Christianity doesn't belong in a courtroom setting.

It's like they have distilled down the essence of making your grandma scared and forcing her to vote or else her grand babies will literally get eaten alive because they weren't aborted.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is exactly our problem.

Yes yes Trump is absolutely an issue, but it's propaganda outlets that are ruining the country. I have no solution to that problem. It's important to have a free press, but they are 100% taking advantage of that.

They stupidly set the stage for people like Trump, but they think they're just doing R vs D shit so they can get their asshole of choice into power. Well the people tend to get more crazy than anyone would prefer so you open the door for them and you have no control over who enters.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

We've implemented the principle of free speech in a way that denies that fact that vast swathes of people are idiots who will believe anything, and that failure has been weaponized against us.

Nobody should have to right to rile up credulous morons with ridiculous lies.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

Not just Fox "News" but all the alt-right AM radio pundits too. While visiting my parents, I overheard his AM radio speaker downplay events by saying that E. Jean Carroll only "claims" Trump did things, while totally ignoring the fact that Trump was already convicted of sexual assault and the judge later confirmed it was indeed classified as rape, and he had to pay her $5 million for defamation, which now there's ANOTHER court case going on that's bad for Trump, but all of those pesky facts weren't mentioned, only that E. Jean Carroll was a vindictive slut. Truly maddening to me when you know the objective facts, I call it Conservative brain rot.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

It was essentially the same back then too. Those were the days of Glenn Beck mapping out insane conspiracy theories every day.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

The Newsmax model

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In the early to mid 00s, Fox News was just the "Arab people are scary!" network and wasn't that batshit insane yet.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I don’t recall it being nearly as bad as it was last night.

Your memory is faulty. Fox News has been like this from day one (which was October 7th, 1996).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

This is what they are telling each other... technologically advanced mermaids are out to get you: https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1657868909716951041

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I did not believe you. What the fuck is going on. At this point I feel like I'm losing my fucking mind trying to point out to people that they need to vote because the otherside has been eating this shit up and ready to get violent about it if they are not already.

I hate the fact that I have to think about whether I am going to flee the country if they gain a majority rule.

Please get out and vote, everyone, no matter how hard they make it to do so.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 56 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Old fascist yells at 1st Amendment.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (4 children)

diaper-wearing buffoon uses sharpie to scribble-out cnn and nbc in an old tv guide.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Whilst pooping himself

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago

They're showing less of the train wreck than before and denying him some of the free coverage to which he feels entitled. The tantrum was inevitable.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Huh. I thought these types were bitching about "cancel culture" all the time, and donnie wants entire networks off the air because of his feelz.

Always projection. When the cons talk about snowflakes, they are some of the biggest snowflakes on the planet, all enthusiastic to vote for one of the biggest snowflakes in history.

[–] loutr 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I am a whiner and I keep whining and whining until I win.

Donald Trump

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

For anyone wondering, yes he really said that. Rare moment of honesty, like "I don't stand for anything."

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

They always do what they say they hate. Something something projection.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We had better deal with this fascist cunt.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Where's Charles Guiteau when you need him!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The Ballad of Guiteau tells his story in song.

Personally, I'd rather have Czolgosz.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago

I want trump off air for being human garbage

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Dictators gonna dictate.

More like "Tyrants gonna rant." Trump doesn't have the power to dictate the First Amendment away, at least not yet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I like yours better.

Somehow rules never matter to dictators.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

It's kind of the defining feature of dictators.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

So he wants to limit freedom of the press and freedom of speech?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

He’s been pretty clear he wants to silence opposition and critics, that includes the press.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

He's been butthurt about the mockery of his tiny hands for decades. He still has a chip on his shoulder over Obama and Seth mocking him at the correspondent's dinner. He probably thought they were going to give him some kind of shiny trophy or something when he went....

He also whined about SNL mocking him during his residency and wanted something done about it.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Honestly, they did him a favor. They aired the beginning part. And in the beginning he was uncharacteristically on-message and gracious. The end got into his terribly unpopular policies.

I say fuck it. Air the rest. Let people be reminded about how terrifying he is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So, even worse than not airing it at all. The “liberal media” only played the part that made him look good.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

To be fair, it was live and they didn’t have a time machine. He was babbling on about boring stuff and eventually they just decided to move on. They didn’t know what he was going to ramble about after they moved over to other coverage.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Imagine looking up to this orange turd.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Big Brother lets you have Hate Week 52 weeks a year.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The best way to ensure he doesn't get elected is for him to piss off the corporations and I would say 2 big ones like this could do some damage to him. Keep running your mouth about stuff like that and see. Better yet demand fox news be taken off air, they might actually turn people against him.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nothing will happen. They love the publicity and money it brings in

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

If he becomes a dictator like he wants he WILL attack his enemies, including media.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not showing a speech should be allowed.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Guy who routinely cry's about the mainstream media, continues to cry about the main stream media.

More at 11.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

skips forward

Still crying

God damn it

skips forward even more

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I could be wrong, but I believe it was a CBS executive who once said that covering Trump the way they do was absolutely terrible for democracy in this country and that he is a real danger to our way of life -- but they were still going to keep covering him anyway because covering him is absolutely great for their bottom line.

load more comments
view more: next ›