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[–] [email protected] 218 points 7 months ago (6 children)

All modules that call a Unix library contain WoW64 thunks to enable calling the 64-bit Unix library from 32-bit PE code. This means that it is possible to run 32-bit Windows applications on a purely 64-bit Unix installation. This is called the new WoW64 mode, as opposed to the old WoW64 mode where 32-bit applications run inside a 32-bit Unix process.

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

So in the future no need to install 32 bit packages of wine in a 64 system??? 👀

[–] [email protected] 102 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Correcto. Which means Steam will probably drop 32 bit libs soon. Which means Ubuntu will stop shipping 32 libs. The era is truly coming to an end

[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Let's call it "soonish". The old proton versions still need 32 bit libs if they do not backport the feature.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Old Proton builds probably won't backport this (unless it's completely isolated, idk the code layout of Wine). But are old Proton builds still necessary? Occasionally there's regressions, but are there really any games that require like a 2 year old Proton build?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

There are, but it's complicated. Doom (2016) for instance - it doesn't handle the very large Vulkan swap chain that's possible on some modern graphics cards, crashes on start-up. Someone patched Proton around that time so that Doom would start; the patch was later reverted since it broke other games. Other games based off of that engine - couple of Wolfensteins, Doom Eternal - have the problem fixed in the binaries, and so run on up-to-date Proton, but depending on your hardware, only a few specific, old, versions of Proton, will do for Doom.

Regressions get fixed - that's okay. Buggy behaviour which depended on regressions that got fixed - that's a problem.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Come on Steam, show those 32-bit libs the door!

Not the political kind. The shared object kind.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 7 months ago

What does this have to do with rust?

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[–] sentient_loom 135 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Finally, a version that rhymes.

[–] taladar 16 points 7 months ago

Wine is not an emulniner?

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 7 months ago

Finally, native Wayland support! Looking forward to when proton is updated with this. Good job to all the developers!

[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ooo, native Wayland support, now only about half my software will be running through xwayland once Proton is updated as well.

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[–] UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT 42 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They should have code-named this release "Brooklyn".

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Sorry if this is a dumb question, I’m still very new to Linux. I have Wine 8 installed, currently just to run one application for one of my games. Should I bother to update to 9 if my current setup is working? I’m still adjusting to the FOSS environment and haven’t quite figured out whether or not I should always update to the latest and greatest just because I can.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago

If it works and you are still figuring things out, I suggest not taking specific action right now. Use your package manager to keep your system up to date and it will deal with this in due time.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (7 children)

A lot of the time the version of wine will cause issues with the application, so if you have something working, stick with it.

It would be worthwhile to look into a wine prefix manager like lutris or bottles for gaming. Regular apps can benefit also, but I am not up to speed on anything not for gaming.

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[–] kugmo 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The fact that I don't have to deal with lib32-gst-plugins-ugly/bad/ect is amazing, but I'll have to keep 32 bit libraries for Team Fortress 2 and other online Source games.

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