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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

We have ruthlessly changed the Labour party, put ourselves in a position where it can credibly contend in the election this year, and the overwhelming majority of Labour party members and supporters are delighted.

They're so pleased that they've been leaving the party in droves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Utter bellend. So "self-defense", killing Yemeni people, who are putting economic pressure on Israel, slowing the delivery of arms, who haven't killed a single person, is totally fine. But stopping an actual genocide, is a no.

They go to war to protect profits and give diplomatic cover to a genocidal ethnostate. The whole thing is fucked. It shows you how little they care about any of us.

Racist imperialist fucks.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

One, the strikes killed five Houthi members and injured four others, zero civilians were harmed. Second, how does firing missiles at civilian ships, many of which have no links to Israel, put pressure on Israel?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't. It fits his narrative, nothing more.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Yeah, leftist foreign policy can be annoying. One the one hand, they'll (we'll?, I am a socialist) correctly point out how violent occupation creates the material conditions for Palestinians to want to join reactionary groups like Hamas and that the only way to end Hamas is to end the occupation.

But as soon as America/any western nation is involved, all analysis is thrown out and they'll just start reiterate verbatim the talking points of some of the most reactionary groups on Earth, because all western foreign policy is just forever wars for the MIC.

Also, you should use they/them as they don't specify their pronouns in their name or bio.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Keir Starmer has rejected claims he has watered down promises to introduce a law giving MPs a vote before military intervention and to stop selling weapons to Saudi Arabia.

Starmer has backed the RAF strikes in Yemen with the US, which were authorised by Rishi Sunak without giving parliamentarians a say, but he insisted on Sunday there was “no inconsistency” between the two positions.

Rejecting suggestions his move could anger the party’s leftwing, Starmer added: “No Labour activist has ever said to me ‘if urgent action is needed we should stop that in order for parliament to be convened’.”

Before becoming Labour leader in 2020, Starmer said the UK “should stop the sale of arms to Saudi Arabia” over concerns about their use in Yemen’s civil war.

According to parliamentary records, Starmer used the Qatari-provided jet to travel between the Cop28 climate conference and Doha, where he met the Emir of Qatar with three members of staff.

Starmer was also questioned for accepting the free flight to Qatar when he said previously he would not watch England in the World Cup there because of concerns about the Gulf state’s human rights record.


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