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[–] [email protected] 262 points 10 months ago (5 children)

“sharpen our focus and improve the way we work together to bring more agility to our organization.”

Ahh yes, watching co-workers get laid off does wonders for improving the way you work together with the people still there.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It does make you work harder... at finding some other job:-P.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago

Not exactly a stellar market to be looking in. Chances are that you'll be trading down, especially if you're in some level of big tech, like Discord arguably is.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

What a load of PR wank

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Right? Sharpening focus and working together have zero to do with how many people you employ.

This was about profits. It's always about profits.

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[–] [email protected] 144 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 70 points 10 months ago (1 children)

At least not without a golden parachute.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

Here is your reward for fucking up

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

The execs I know yell at people. They somehow get rewarded for having temper tantrums.

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[–] [email protected] 127 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's not like the management has let people, who still work there, add or fix anything. It's been nothing but Nitro promos, and animated profiles. Huge shame that people got laid off like this

[–] [email protected] 53 points 10 months ago (10 children)

"Heres your hourly reminder to rent worthless garbage we want you to pay monthy for, per server"

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 10 months ago (4 children)

To be clear, I'm not defeneding this pratice but explaining it. This cycle is how large businesses operate to foster growth over time.

  • Lay off people to tell stock holders they are becoming more efficient.
  • wait
  • Hiring spree, announce new features, new directions, hype hype hype
  • wait
  • Lay offs! Trimming overhead! Streamlining! Much efficency! Good business!
  • wait
  • Hyyyyyyype! Discord announces a plan to replace iMessage, Email and the entire concept of texting! Triples their staff! Such hype!

Rinse, repeat

It's horrific for the employees and a scathing indictment as capitalism as a whole. But, this is how large businesses work, not nessecarily a massive corporate slip up.

Here is a lawyer explaining the "dance steps" that the game industries is doing as of late.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That may have been true during the lavish times of ZIRP, but I wouldn't expect to see this dance any longer, at least until money is cheap/free again.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Y'know, they were going crazy over the top implementing unnecessary features... Maybe they actually did have too many employees doing useless things, but they should've instead had those employees focus on performance instead

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (4 children)

You hit the nail on the head.

I see this so many places - nobody asks “how big does this company need to be”? This is the problem with public companies - they are caught in an endless growth trap. Private businesses at least get to a point where a) growth has to happen sustainably because often there isn’t endless money available to invest and b) once you’ve got one private jet, as owners, do you really need another?

Reddit was no different. Maybe it would have been better for us all if it was a much smaller team and just careful tendered like a garden that had filled its plot.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Probably trying everything they could to get more $$$ but it didn't work out so.... bye.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Unity, Google, Discord. All within a day or two of each other.

For every number of employees laid off, a VP level employee must be fired. Those employees didn't hire themselves. Someone came up with the idea.

If companies don't do this they're not attacking the root of the problem.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (7 children)

They coordinate to create a glut and push all their wages down. Computer touching wagies and so socially stunted they'll never form effective union. If they did, they would jusy defect out of greed.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also twitch. Yuck...

Probably some great devs on the market for anyone hiring though.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Tech CEOs: we need better numbers. Fire a bunch of people! Ahh there we go. Now we’re flush with cash. Well, my work here is done.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

And gut the r&d budget. That's future CEO's problem.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago

That will cause some discord

[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Before you do that, can you fix screen sharing on Linux?

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Now how to move the gaming community to Matrix or XMPP.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (4 children)

You don't. Gamers, are generally happy to bow to their corporate overlords for some reason.

Source: am a gamer. And I admit I do put up with some of that bullshit too.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago

Discord went the way of Skype, it's just a bloated fustercluck now. I don't use it often, just once a month or so to keep up with a group of old friends, and every time I fire it up it has a new update bringing features I don't give a rats ass about.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So the nitro subscription is gonna up to increase profits?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

They're going to dedicate their entire next year's budget to introduce a new kind of emoji, though.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Right after they ruined the app’s UI?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Mobile UI is atrocious after the recent upgrade a couple months ago. Wish I could go back.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A wave of enshittification has struck Discord

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Sorry to say it, but it has always sucked.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Nah. What sucked was having to type in IP addresses just to talk on voice.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Small company: yeah, we hired too many people, need to let go of 170.

People: such huge cuts, not touching them anymore

Large company: we're laying off the entire staff of pre-Elon Twitter worth of employees in this one department because they didn't make us enough money.

People: good, your product sucked anyways

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

I mean, I wouldn’t exactly call a company with 1000 employees “small”. It’s not the behemoth that something like Google is, but like… that’s a good chunk of people.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Still holding out for them to have a $10 a year tier with no added features. The $36 bucks a year entry fee is just too much.

Can someone here explain to me why so many free services directly jump to $3, $5 or $9.99 bucks a month? Why not $10 per year? Surely that's better than nothing?

Just call it supporter tier and that's it. I don't want any icons or upload limits either. I just want to not feel like a leech. ;)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If a free tier is offered, why would you be a leech? It’s calculated in their business and free users indirectly bring revenue (the more free users they have, the more they can convert). This concept of being a leech is so alien to me.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

I dont understand it either. I would happily donate to signal yearly like 10-15€, but 5 every month? No, thats just too much sorry.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What's really an insult are ad-based tiers from streaming services where they make money from both you and people advertising to you.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Any alternative you would recommend? I'm mostly using it for video group call for dnd. Although convincing the group to change to yet another program would be the hardest part.

[–] m_randall 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As far as self hosted I’ve heard a lot about matrix but haven’t tried it. Maybe I’ll give it a shot this weekend.

https://matrix.org/

There’s also telegram, slack, etc if you want something else commercial.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I've convinced few of my friends to use Matrix and it has been a really nice platform and now I prefer it to Discord not only because it respects user privacy but also because it doesn't have the nitro bs

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

~~Microsoft~~ Roblox ripped off Discord and branded it as Guilded GG. Features-wise for audio and game streaming, they offer higher quality than Discord for free.

Is there any chance you'll get your group of friends to move to ~~"MS Teams for gamers"?~~ anything other than Discord? No chance.

Edited: Correction that Guilded is owned by Roblox, not MS.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Guilded.gg is owned by Roblox, where does Microsoft come into play?

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