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[–] [email protected] 65 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also, 'Negro' isn't the N word. Capital N Negro was the preferred term for decades, up until the Malcolm X era.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Also that word in bunch of languages still means black person

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

Can confirm for Spanish.

[–] h3rm17 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It just means black indeed, the color

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nah in my language and Spanish at the very least it refers to a person

[–] h3rm17 2 points 10 months ago

It can refer to a person when you treat the adjective as a noun, but it is really just the color. Like you can say a black person. That does not mean that black refers to a person, it means that, in this particular context, you are modifying the person noun.

I'm not sure if in English you can do this, but in Spanish (my language), you can say something like "Pass me the knife" "Which knife?" "The black" (I think English needs a "one" added, as in, "the black one")

In Spanish, it would just be "Pasame el cuchillo" "¿Qué cuchillo?" "El negro".

So, negro is just the color black, but it has come to refer as well to black people. But it still is the colour. https://dle.rae.es/negro

You can see that 4 and 5 refer to black people and their related culture, but still, it's because of the colour.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Then it's settled. I have Polish heritage and therefore posses the N-word pass.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden 23 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Be careful, the pass is only valid in Haiti.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

*lands in haiti*

*walks out of the terminal*

*stand there a moment, looks around*

*takes a big breath*

NNNNNNNNN...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

gets shot and killed by a gang member

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Well I did say *lands in Haiti*

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Well, it definitely would not be easy to use in Poland: according to the last census out of almost 38,000,000 people fewer than 200 are black.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

tbh in most of the world's countries if you say it people are just going to wonder wtf you're on about, and in a large chunk of them it'd just be like randomly saying "yellow"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That man is a true revolutionary, like Washington and Bolivar, of the Americas.

[–] rambling_lunatic 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He also forced his people to go back to work in the plantations or in the army under pain of death. The Poles got real lucky that they got classified as honorary blacks, too, because he ordered a genocide of all white people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The country kept its slaves and the country was involved in a genocide of its native population, basically almost like Washington and America.😊

That and it depends on your belief if he’s justified for the genocide or not as a nice case of… what did that clown say? Ah, yes: “You get what you fucking deserve!”

[–] rambling_lunatic 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Does that justify murdering almost every single Frenchman and Frenchwoman?

He did not care if they owned slaves or not. He did not care what their opinion on Tainos was. He killed them all.

Off-topic, but the residents of Hispaniola did a whole lot more than you folks up North. You still have natives. We don't.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ah, so that's where the Lemmy dev's screen name comes from. Neat.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I was alarmed at their screen name before learning they're Polish

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

After that, Dessalines got murdered.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

And still after that, he admined Lemmy, history is crazy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Isn't Vaush/Ian Kochinski like part-Polish? That makes the N-word incident not problematic.

[–] SuddenDownpour 5 points 10 months ago

Turns out the left was just disrespecting his cultural heritage SMH my head

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I was only recently learned that Haiti and Jamaica are in North America...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Politics and culture have more weight than pure geography. Haiti is better described as part of the Caribbean, which like the Pacific Islands, is almost it's own thing. Geographically, it's more North than South American, but that distinction isn't useful for understanding it. The Americas can be broken down into the zones of Central, North, South, and the Caribbean. Culturally, it can best be divided in two as English America and Latin America. The traditional North vs South line betrays how the US and Canada relate to every other American country.

I wish we legally recognized overlap with our geographic categorization. Eastern Europe overlaps with both Europe and Asia. North and South America overlap in Central America and the Caribbean. The Middle East overlaps with Asia, Africa, Western Europe, and Eastern Europe. Regions really aren't exclusive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Anyone want my pass? I feel like I'm not gonna use it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Napoleon sent polish troops to fight a slave rebellion, poles declared they were supposed to fight for freedom not against it and changed sides.