this post was submitted on 08 Jun 2023
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just so this doesn't overwhelm our front page too much, i think now's a good time to start consolidating discussions. existing threads will be kept up, but unless a big update comes let's try to keep what's happening in this thread instead of across 10.

developments to this point:

The Verge is on it as usual, also--here's their latest coverage (h/t @[email protected]):

other media coverage:

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (10 children)

How much were these apps making in revenue? Curious how bad the gap is with the API pricing.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Joey is currently canvassing for whether people would be willing to pay a subscription. As an average Joey user, the answer is no.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Incredibly sad to see corporate greed takeover. It's only a matter of time until they remove the old interface. I will definitely stop using Reddit altogether on mobile. It'll be quite hard for me to stop using it on desktop, but I might just give it all up on June 30th.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's disappointing that Reddit has chosen to prioritize money after their success :(

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Money is the measure of success to a business. It's what they exist for, at least under capitalism.

They'll hold the very idea of community ransom. They'll do it in virtual spaces, and they'll do it in meatspaces. And they won't stop unless it's proven to be deeply unprofitable.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hate to see reddit die like this, but Lemmy does feel like a suitable alternative, and I'm glad I switched over. Hopefully we see a lot more users move over as subreddits go dark.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Time to get my popcorn ready! (First post from my instance).

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

My concern is that communities on Lemmy are fractured by instance. You CAN read or subscribe to communities on any instance, but communities with the same topics (or even the same names!) on different instances are in no way connected. For example, there can be a community called "Books" on every instance, but if you subscribe to one you will NOT see posts in any of the other Books communities on other instances. You'd have to go out, specifically find each one of them, and subscribe to them separately.

Not to mention communities with different names, but that cover the same essential topic. For example, I'm subscribed to the "Literature" community here. It's nice. But it's entirely disconnected from any of the "Books" communities on other instances. I'm not sure how that sort of fracturing could be addressed. I understand that there's a plan to eventually allow "MultiReddit" style aggregating, allowing users to group a number of communities into a single reading group, but that would only apply to what that individual user would read. No one else would have the benefit of seeing all the posts from those communities in a single group unless they individually recreated that collection.

What might work would be to bake in a set of standard all-instance communities which would automatically merge the content from all instances for those topics for all users. But I'm not sure that would work, since not all instances have to federate with all other instances.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I don’t think of that as a negative. It’s a different structure than Reddit.

Each instance would be a community in the cultural sense. All of the Lemmy communities within that instance would be a place for primarily the same instance users to gather. Each instance having its own cultural identity. Decentralized.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I agree. On reddit, there are a bazillion different "gaming" subreddits that are only named different because that's the only way to have different communities around the same topic: r/gaming, r/games, r/truegaming, r/patientgamers, r/girlgamers, r/transgamers, r/gaymers, and so on.

Each of those communities has a different feel and different moderation and different priorities, and no way no how would I want r/gaming posts mixed in if I'm trying to browse r/transgamers, for example.

Similarly, I'm mostly sticking to Lemmy instances that disable the downvote button, because it makes for friendly places I think, and lowers the barrier to posting for socially anxious users.

I like the idea of there being a way for users, or for similar groups of instances that agree to it (like if beehaw and an instance with similar rules/community feel wanted to collaborate a bit), to set up a multi-lemmy 'all' community thing that shows posts across similar communities, but it should still be optional.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I suspect a multi-reddit type functionality will be developed at some point which could partially mitigate the concern.

But besides that, I think we’ll find sites develop around a common interest, and they will each be the “big player” for that topic. LemmyBooks.org for example (not a real instance AFAIK) could be the leading book themed instance; you could still grab their content even though your account is on LemmyMusic.com

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We were given a sort of a survey in the Joey app asking what's the max we're willing to pay monthly for a subscription. I haven't seen any post from the dev yet. But I'm pessimistic it'll continue since it seems from reddit comments that Joey users are in the minority. I doubt even a subscription fee for its users can save it.

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