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Installed a new debian server, installed docker, but then now i have a problem with permissions on passed directories.

On the previous server, the uid/gids inside the docker container match the uid/gid on the real server.

Root is 0, www-data is 33, and so on.

On this new server, instead, files owned by root (0) in the container are translated to 1000 on the server, www-data (33) is 100032, and so on (+1000 appended to the uid)

Is this normal or did I misconfigure something? On the previous server I was running everything as root (the interactive user was root), and i would like to avoid that

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's actually a suggested configuration / best practice to NOT have container user IDs matching the host user IDs.

Ditch the idea of root and user in a docker container. For your containerized application use 10000:10001. You'll have only one application and one "user" in the container anyways when doing it right.

To be even more on the secure side use a different random user ID and group ID for every container.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is really dependent on whether or not you want to interact with mounted volumes. In a production setting, containers are ephemeral and should essentially never be touched. Data is abstracted into stores like a database or object storage. If you’re interacting with mounted volumes, it’s usually through a different layer of abstraction like Kibana reading Elastic indices. In a self-hosted setting, you might be sidestepping dependency hell on a local system by containerizing. Data is often tightly coupled to the local filesystem. It is much easier to match the container user to the desired local user to avoid constant sudo calls.

I had to check the community before responding. Since we’re talking self-hosted, your advice is largely overkill.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

This is really dependent on […]

… basically anything. Yes. You will always find yourself in problems where the best practice isn’t the best solution for.

In your described use case an option would be having the application inside the container running with 10000:10001 but writing the data into another directory that is configured to use 1000:1001 (or whatever the user is you want to access the data with from your host) and just mount the volume there. This takes a bit more configuration effort than just running the application with 1000:1001 … but still :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do I need to actually create the user in advance or can I just choose a string as I see fit?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You don't need to create the user first. Here's the simplest I can come up with:

FROM alpine:latest
COPY myscript.sh /app/myscript.sh
USER 10000:10001
CMD ["sh", "/app/myscript.sh"]

This simply runs /app/myscript.sh with UID 10000 and GID 10001.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wasnt aware that you can just think of IDs from fresh air.
Thought it was to create the user and ID manually amd then be able to use it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yep! The names are basically just a convenient way for referencing a user or group ID.

Under normal circumstances you should let the system decide what IDs to use, but in the confined environment of a docker container you can do pretty much what you want.

If you really, really, really want to create a user and group just set the IDs manually:

FROM alpine:latest
COPY myscript.sh /app/myscript.sh
RUN addgroup -g 10001 mycoolgroup && adduser -D -u 10000 -G mycoolgroup mycooluser
USER mycooluser:mycoolgroup
CMD ["sh", "/app/myscript.sh"]

Just make sure to stay at or above 10000 so you won't accidentally re-use IDs that are already defined on the host.

[–] scottmeme 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My go-to for user and group IDs is 1234:1234

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

checked .bash_history, looks like i installed docker in the new rootless mode

wget get.docker.com
ls
mv index.html docker.sh
chmod +x docker.sh
./docker.sh
dockerd-rootless-setuptool.sh install
sudo dockerd-rootless-setuptool.sh install
sudo apt install uidmap
dockerd-rootless-setuptool.sh install

now i need to see how to restore it to work in the traditional way or i will become crazy with the permissions...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I fixed it:

for future reference:

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why go through all of that complexity when you could just sudo apt install docker?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i don't want to type sudo before each single docker command

[–] Voroxpete 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You can do that with regular docker. Just add your user to the docker group.

(don't forget to log out and log in again after adding new groups to your user)

[–] twiked 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Niche use case, but you can also use newgrp to run commands with a recently-added group to your user, without having to logout/login yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Or start a new session by typing bash, when already in bash.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

So add your user to the new docker group made on install of that package and you'll be able to docker without sudo. You may need to relogin or newgrp docker before it works tho

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Looks like you are running rootless.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not very well versed on docker, but this sounds like a config issue. The behavior seems similar to "squash root" found in many other services.