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[–] [email protected] 203 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I'm sure he did make games worse, but he also covered up for rapists and threatened to kill employees which seems maybe more headline worthy to me.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The one thing he was at the company to do, was make good games that make good money.

Covering for rapists and threatening to kill employees is bad enough, but I can see a world where that sort of shit is, not forgiven, but swept under the rug.

That world is one where the money flows. It's not a good world, but it's one that's understandable.

But fucking with the games and making shit worse? In a sane world, the Board would take a look at the company and say, no. this guy has to go for all of the above reasons.

That sane world is one where mergers and acquisitions are heavily scrutinized, and Blizzard was not allowed to merge with Activision.

Actual competition in the space means that the CEO has to actually be halfway good at the job, and maybe not a complete psycho. We don't live in a sane world.

[–] adriaan 4 points 7 months ago

He made the games worse, but that doesn't mean he made them less profitable. Those are sadly distinct goals. The CEO does not have an incentive to make good art.

[–] yata 2 points 7 months ago

You are making the mistake of conflating game quality with profit. He did not lessen the profitability of the games, on the contrary, and that is what the board cares about, not the quality of games.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Quite a few gamers who wouldn't give a shit about those people, but for whom the red mist would descend about some game mechanic or another.

[–] [email protected] 124 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Please stop making me look into his dead corporate demon eyes...

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago

Seriously, it's like there is another head inside the outside head...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

The thing about Bobby Kotick, it's got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eyes. When it comes at you it doesn't seem to be livin'... until he bites you, and those black eyes roll over white.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Is it just going to stay common knowledge that all the productions of man are put on for the invisible wallets of shareholders and nothing is sacred anymore in the chase of profit? Like companies are straight up selling shit and shovelware and nobody is piking anybody?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Nothing good comes from public companies making games.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That may be true now but it wasn't always. If they hadn't made the classics they wouldn't be the giants they are. The incentives changed, and it was a short fall into the pits.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

It's not impossible, but it makes it a hell of a lot harder. The pockets of the shareholders are almost always directly opposed to the wants of the players. The public company needs to fight the shareholders not to rake the players over the coals or through other means gain 20% per year. Every time the big ships gobble up the small fries, the odds readjust toward late stage capitalism

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'd say it still holds some truth - Activision started out as a private company and didn't go public until 14 years later.

Once a company goes public, it suddenly has to answer to shareholders instead of just its owners, and that's how any creative vision gets diluted and, eventually, lost completely.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

True, on the other hand Nintendo was public when they made it big in the 1980's. They were public before they stopped making trading cards and well before they thought of Mario, Kirby, and really any of the ninetendo characters we love. The same is true for Sega. What happened was C Suites starting putting their fudiciary oath to the shareholders above all else, even company name and reputation. Which, in today's age, might explain some of FromSoftware's uniqueness, as they are a private company.

[–] Corkyskog 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I always thought that Gamestop should have pivoted incredibly hard and used all that extra money to buy a game developer company. If enough shares are in household hands you can still do cool stuff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That would have been pretty cool. I kinda expected they'd just take some cash and go into publishing. Maybe do a gamefly online launcher for used titles by staking real physical copies.

[–] Corkyskog 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Instead they seem to be wasting it on NFT and WEB3 gaming... IDK seems like a bad strategy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Don't worry, NFT is sliding, it'll eventually die off. A lot of game designers are bored and looking for a new hammer. The same guys that have been looking for nails with blockchain on 'em for a decade. You know, I get it, it's a whole economy and payments system with no fees in what looks like a clean bundle. Problem is it's not as shiny as it looks when you start digging in to it and they're all finding that out.

[–] Corkyskog 1 points 7 months ago

I haven't looked at their Financials lately, but I was just worried they blew their resurrection gift from retail on a bunch of NFT drifters. It's been a while and I haven't seen anything come to fruition.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Yes, but it’s not really common knowledge. People may recognize that if you’re talking about egg prices last year for instance, but then don’t bat at $400 concert tickets, or TV shows that spin plotlines to increase ad time, or the state of higher education as sports franchises first and foremost to sell merchandise

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sociopaths decisions make not only product and markets worse, even to workers and their families and of course consumers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But not to his shareholders! Checkmate, atheists!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah sadly is all about that. But let me tell you something , it’s just a modus operandis to take the money and run away . You know, like politicians. They don’t care the long effects and results.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

yes but it made him and shareholders very rich.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

HEY HEY PEOPLE

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

There were some stories going around, after the Overwatch 2 launch, that Kotick would sometimes interfere with the development on that game, which would cause them to just lose or waste tons of work. There's more that went wrong with that game, but if those stories are true, that certainly didn't help.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Well blow me down.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] -5 points 7 months ago (4 children)

This fucking guy is going to work a bungie. I love destiny… a lot. While the game might not be everyone’s brand of tequila, I love it. Super scary times for the studio.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

Destiny has been destroyed by Bungie long before him ngl

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You'll be glad to learn that rumor was actually just a joke. It came from a joke TWiD post that went the rounds on Reddit and YouTube but isn't real. Don't worry, Kotick isn't joining Bungie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I wonder why they thought it was a good idea to post the joke TWAB...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Bungie didn't do it. It was a community member just having laugh.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I swear I saw it on their website, but I guess I was just fooled. I heard it was a joke TWAB but it felt too close to reality

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

That TWAB was unusually funny! Glad to hear it was a joke

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Bungie aren't hiring him. They are more than capable of messing things up all on their own.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

That worried me. Looks to not be true though.