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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Get clapped. Now I believe those tank losses I see in the updates

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Longer version

[–] notasandwich1948 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

what's even the idea here, doing this is getting them nowhere

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Orders is orders. Either advance through the minefield or be killed by your commander.

The mine clearing tank(improperly setup for anti-vehicle mines and going too fast) leading things getting hit and disabled meant the rest had to backtrack or they were just stationary targets, advancing means a prayer's chance. The rear vehicle fucked up and left the cleared track and got hit, so now the cleared path back to "safety" is blocked. Then panic and desperation set in and they just went for it to maybe get back to safety instead of being stuck in a minefield.

[–] notasandwich1948 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I feel like Russia would get alot more out of this if they stopped trying to advance and stayed where they are. they are hardly taking anything over like this anyway

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Putin wants all of Ukraine, Ukraine wants Putin's army to fuck off.

If they stop all advancing that will allow Ukraine to hold a static position and establish themselves, that will put them in a stronger position to launch attacks against Putin's army. So Putin needs to keep pushing at the Ukrainian line to keep their established positions as far back as possible. Keeping the established line further back is why Ukraine needs longer range capabilities, to extend their reach to Putin's established lines.

By performing attempts at driving into the Ukrainian line, it provokes Ukraine to direct resources to that point. Ukrainian forces drawn to one area weakens the line elsewhere so Putin's forces can hit another area with the hopes of breaking through and setup for flanking the adjacent Ukrainian line and thereby carve out more land.

The Russian military commanders want to make Putin happy, the only way to do that is to make progress in capturing Ukrainian land. So they must keep throwing their troops into the Ukrainian fronts; otherwise they will only lose ground and that will make Putin unhappy, when Putin is unhappy windows get broken.

So Putin's army staying put causes their military commanders to have accidents and allows Ukraine to have a greater tactical advantage.

[–] notasandwich1948 1 points 10 months ago

that explains it, thanks