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I'm really worried about the state of the US despite being a white male who was I'll coast right through it. I'll also accept "I don't" and "very poorly" as answers

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I fully embrace the fact and wonder what will be ruined next.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

What do you mean "the world isn't getting better"? It definitely is. I mean, just look at, well, uhh... well uhhh... nevermind.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Being the history nerd I am, I tell myself that this has happened before. Think of the Bronze Age Collapse or the Fall of Rome. For people who lived back then, it probably felt like the end of the world. But after many generations, they still managed to rebuild. I must keep going in order to document as much history as possible for future generations in the case that humanity survives all this crazy shit that is going on.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

We still don't really know what caused the Bronze Age Collapse, just that it happened and that we survived it, though it took several centuries to rebuild. The Fall of Rome happened so slowly that it was nearly invisible. Hell, there are still a few countries out there claiming the "Emporer" title and all are valid successors of the title.

This thing that is happening now is different. We know what's causing it. We know how to stop it, we're just not. And it's coming at us. Super fast. Who knows if we will survive this?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sadly, I have taken moves to grow as much as I can, tend to chickens for eggs, and start just pulling back from my community because they are really terrible. Really, I should be building the community and mutual aid but the amount of people that care about nobody but themselves around here is just too high.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The world is getting better. There are some setbacks, yes. But there are lots of normal people making the world a better place, like the guy who figured out how to make artificial glaciers with river water in India, or the guy who recently built a forest on arid land by refining local techniques in Burkina Faso. Things will be okay!

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mostly just pretend that thing's can get better, if I just communism hard enough. Also sex and drugs.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It is getting better though. We are all just facing the issues of our era's.

Tech keeps going up, we are slowly making progress on climate change, the space race is back on, and superpowers don't directly fight eachother anymore. Hell, we've proven to beat once in a century pandemics in a few years with relatively speaking barely any deaths. Life's good

Yes, we have squabbles in the middle east and Africa, but that's par for the course and not an indicator for human development. The only thing that has really gone backwards is that war has been brought back to europe

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Some very good replies here. I share some of your worries, but with some recent issues I have also gotten a lot of practice seeing the good in things. Consider these 2 angles:

First is the Louis CK routine that includes β€œEverything is amazing and nobody is happy.” I think it comes down to humans getting used to things that work well and taking them for granted. Compared against most people who have ever lived, we are genius magical wizards who live in luxury. Unfortunately some of our magical technologies let us see the bad shit all around the world (and close to us) that our brains haven’t evolved to deal with.

Second is how absurdly unlikely and unique the existence of our consciousness seems. We are a collection of atoms forged in inconceivably massive exploding stars billions of years ago, aware of its own existence. We are literally the universe experiencing itself.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

I take comfort in getting older and getting closer to being dead.

I can barely wait. The comfort of nothingness is a great help.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

There are a lot of good news all the time. For example: I'm pro veganism and always heard that vegans make up about 2% of the population. Recently I heard that specifically in my city about 8% are vegans. That's amazing!

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I just hope no wars will be started over here (western Europe) in the next ten years, so my sons won't get drafted.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Life's pretty good here in Australia. No neighbours on the border causing problems, weather is generally good, lots of wide open empty nature to get out of the city, average salary is $93k and unemployment is low, crime is low. Inequality is a problem although our Gini coefficient has actually lowered recently. There's a lot of life to enjoy, and really the endless stream of negativity is only experienced through the media, not in real life, so I switched off the TV and just focus on what's going on around me, enjoying the people, places and activities that I like, and things feel quite positive.

Turn off the news, it's bad for the psyche.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The average salary is around $68k source

edit I should say median, not average.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Just trying to be a lamp in the darkness.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

I've put an ocean between myself and the US.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Well I eat quite unhealthy, so I'm thinking I'll probably die earlier then most. Sooo I guess I got that going for me.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

shrug and say that things will have to get worse before they get better

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Personally I am not really worried. Maybe I am in denial but I think a lot of the negative stuff is way over exposed with 24/7 news cycle and crazy social media.

Bad news and anger drive engagement metrics the best so that is all you will hear about.

So everything I hear I just automatically assume it is way over blown and I should lower the worry factor.

If it is getting overwhelming I would recommend you unplug yourself for a little while and do something you enjoy.

2023 has some amazing games come out maybe pick on of those up and give it a try?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

I just try to enjoy each day as I can without making the world any worse than I can help.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

I cope with the US falling further by not living in the US, unfortunately I'm just privileged like that, sorry.

I have a few friends over there, and the state of things absolutely breaks my heart.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Pretty well. The resistance lives. We are all part of it.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Many good things have been said. I would add that what give me comfort is that in the present moment, it is really, really hard to tell signal from noise. You often don't know the impact of people or events until many years out. We often said in grad school that you can't write history until at least 30 years have passed from the event. So, it seems chaotic and confusing because it is hard to for us to understand what it important and what is not.

The other thing is that every generation often sees the sky as falling in. An ancient Greek philosophy lamented about his parents had it all figured out and his children where going to ruin everything. That same sense of doom is pretty pervasive.

That is not to dismiss any of the real terrible things out there. Climate change is the big problem on the horizon. Nuclear waste is another. But I think on the balance, we are going to muddle through fine. The great blessing of humanity is that we are adaptable. The curse of humanity is that we are adaptable.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Understanding the historical circumstances I find myself in and devoting the majority of my effort in to things I can control.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I like to think about the historical perspective. It's not much consolation but systems like these can't maintain themselves forever, cracks are showing and the US really is more vulnerable than people would like to admit.

Once things start changing there will likely be a lot of problems, things will probably get worse in some ways, but I think even if I don't survive to see what people come up with in the aftermath of the US I can get satisfaction from seeing it burn.

When you read history you learn humans are very resilient, humans will not end when the empire does. Maybe the failure of this place will be good for the world.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I don't actually think it's that bad, once you shut out all the noise.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I'm getting a vasectomy and I drink, cheers m8

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I try my best to understand it better and change the little things I can. I know that won't change the world much so it isn't very fulfilling. Anyways I often think "at least it wasn't my fault and I tried".

In the same position as you, I'm quite privileged living here in Europe, if it all goes to shit I will be fine. I hope I can make the world more fair for everyone anyways.

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