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[–] [email protected] 97 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Not just any swimming, but some amateur or extracurricular school event!

[–] [email protected] 83 points 11 months ago (2 children)

TERFs when I win a game of Battleship:

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

😂🤣😂

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Everyone knows transitioning makes you clairvoyant, you damn cheat!

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago (10 children)

This is the weakest of the arguments for trans rights. There's a reason they want everyone to focus on it.

We shouldn't be allowing them to frame the conversation around the one area where identifying as whatever you want actually affects other people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It actually doesn't. Studies show that trans women perform on par with cis women in athletics. This wishy-washy attitude essentially amounts to "you can only participate if you lose"

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (15 children)

Can you link such studies, because I don't understand how that could possibly be true

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Here's an NPR article interviewing a known geneticist and talking about Trans Athletes. Their general consensus is that there is a lack of data to make an assertion one way or the other for if trans athletes have an edge. And that's without taking into account the vast differences between each individual trans person and where they're at genetically/hormonally. Trans athletes aren't a monolith that are all the same, they can have fundamentally different circumstances and genetics between each person.

Honestly any automatic ban of trans-athletes is stupid. Michael Phelps has a natural genetic advantage when it comes to swimming, but no one of note is coming for his gold medals or saying he can't compete.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The Onion has been on a hot streak lately.

Edit: from May but still true lol

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (15 children)

These people also never consider that they're measuring the wrong thing. If they're taking the position that the effects of testosterone from birth in trans M-to-F kids gives them an unfair advantage due to bone density and muscle mass, then they're failing to take into account that there are a number of natural health conditions that produce elevated testosterone levels in women as well.

I'm not saying this to be funny, but women with stubble especially around the chin often have elevated T levels, often due to PCOS. There truly are some women who are "built like a man" and they're not trans - at least certainly not in the way we use the term today. They're natural, their bodies just work differently.

Banning trans kids isn't going to level the playing field in the way they say they want to. Measuring things that testosterone affects like bone density would.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yep. T level testing was a popular trans exclusionary test until the transphobes learned that there's significant overlap in t levels between trans women and cis women.

Edit: lol looks like we upset the transphobes

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

Not to mention the bigotry, the prejudice, the psychological trauma of existing in a world where people call you evil and an abomination and a cheat for merely wanting to play sports.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (21 children)

Pick your battles, people. Insisting that trans women be allowed to compete in women’s sports is just not a winning argument, even among people that might be willing to otherwise oppose other trans restrictions. All it does in reinforce anti-trans attitudes.

This isn’t some invented fiction. Here is a trans powerlifter that just came in and started shattering records.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Aha, wait until she takes up chess, darts, and competitive crocheting... RIP cis women :'(

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Wow, the ~~phrenologists~~ ~~race realists~~ transphobes fell for this hard.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Haven't some particularly haenous talking heads on TV literally already said this? Perhaps not in directly declaratory language at someone, because that's begging for a defamation suit, though I have absolutely heard Republican scum make this exact accusation in the general case several times against trans people.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This was one of the Onion's more brilliant articles. Absolutely loved it. I showed it to someone who rants about trans girls in sports and they got quiet. The truly good Onion articles make the object of their satire instantly recognize the logical fallacies in their own argument and get uncomfortable.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

The author of this article was laying in bed and thought, “AHA! I can set the internet on fire!”

I love it.

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