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[–] [email protected] 117 points 8 months ago

idling

With how much power proof of work takes it's more like putting a brick on the gas pedal in park

[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago

The value of mining is in permanent recording of people's current heroin transactions. The bitcoin you get is the reward for the service.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (2 children)

With how saturated the mining community is, you have to buy a Bugatti, put a brick on the gas pedal, all while sitting in neutral gear, and leave it running for 24/7.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

Not just one Bugatti. Probably at least 100 Bugattis.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Hey, I saw Ferris' day off, I remember how it ended.

What's worse, is you don't even get there on you get a small chance to get a stock-like transaction that could be worth some heroin or notging at all

[–] Chakravanti 30 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Bitcoin=Snitchcoin

Monero won't broadcast every exchange's handler's details: IP address, ID, time & Date, Amount, Target, Totals, etc.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Just use Lightning and you'll have literally the same onion routing as Tor. Monero doesn't hide your IP address or dates either.

If there's ever an inflation bug in Monero (like the value overflow incident), it will go undetected.

[–] Chakravanti 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't stop the transaction from being broadcast all details. TOR or not don't matter. Broadcast of all details is %100 lightning or not. Monero DOES "hide" your details. It may be visible that I access the Monero network if I don't ride a VPN but it doesn't matter. No more info about said usage is broadcast.

I can see you used PornHub today too. Should have used a VPN. I know how long you watched each of those videos too. Maybe find a VPN that accepts Monero, not the Snitchcoin.

"Bug" LMFAO

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We don't strongly disagree here - we're both protecting our online privacy by bouncing that traffic around a little, through either a VPN or Tor.

We're betting our freedom on the assumption that the bad guys won't compromise each hop. It's easier for them to compromise PornHub and then my VPN than it is to compromise each LN hop. So Monero won't make my wanking any safer; the dick police will just go after the weakest link.

The value overflow incident was a bug that allowed some dude to give himself a bazillion bitcoins. It was caught and fixed before he spent any.

[–] Chakravanti 8 points 8 months ago

I'm betting on the ability to have the masses learn to protect themselves by adapting to FOSS.

In other words. We're all gonna die. Very fucking soon. Faster than any cracker can break Monero.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just use coinjoin over Tor

[–] Chakravanti 4 points 8 months ago

Or swap for Monero over Bisq (TOR market). Whatever. Bitcoin is Snitchcoin. Everything is broadcast enough you cannot avoid it. Even your methods aren't enough.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Zcash too if you enable it

[–] Chakravanti 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fraud. Zcash is closed source. Also it's a backdoor backstabbing snitch coin too. Touching that is ignorant.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Willing to be wrong as I mostly observe from afar but the repo is here: https://github.com/zcash/zcash

How z-to-z shielded transactions using zero-knowledge proofs snitching?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Yeah but you could actually do useful things with the power from an idling car.

[–] Sabre363 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I didn’t mean literally a car, I was going a long with their metaphor.

I saw a Veritasium video where they use a massive engine as part of a whole facility that tests buildings for earthquakes. That’s not something that’s going to be a problem. And in some applications, fossil fuels are what makes sense to use.

We should definitely use them in as few applications as possible, but yeah, if you wanna act like we should stop using them completely, in all applications, you can keep hallucinating.

[–] Sabre363 3 points 8 months ago

I was mostly making a joke about how bad cars are for the environment, not really adding anything of substance to the conversation.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

If you're doing something with the output of the engine then it's not idling, strictly speaking.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You could do useful things with the power used to generate Bitcoin too.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Generally, however, it is not easily converted to heroin

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Use a computer to work -> get paid -> buy heroin

[–] Willy 15 points 8 months ago (17 children)

they real story is more interesting. it's just a shame that the incentives were aligned a bit askew. people gonna people.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I wish for Lemmy Gold hoo boy

[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Could donate to OP's instance. More useful than reddit gold ever was that way.

A button for that would be pretty neat.

[–] hoshikarakitaridia 9 points 8 months ago

Maybe make it more interesting "give this man a medal" and you pay money for that, but the money gets donated to the instance. That could be cool.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yep, people will throw hundreds if not thousands of dollars at big tech giant for random useless cosmetic stuff. Using this late stage consumerism drive for actual good is honestly the best solution. This is not sarcasm. I actually lost faith in the fight against Hyper-consumerism.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Great idea!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Hm. I guess I have to get out the 'ol hose and canister again.

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