I'm in favor of federation. The point of federated networks isn't that there are no evil corporations, but rather that they can't cause damage.

What Facebook can do:

• read your public data (they can do this wether anyone federates with them or not)
• let their users publish content to other Fediverse users

What they can't do:

• serve you ads
• serve you an algorithmic feed
• impose their ToS or rules
• collect data for analytics/tracking/marketing
• force you to use a certain client
• make changes to the protocol or design

I think this is mostly relevant for Mastodon servers due to the format of the content, but the arguments are the same.

Absolutely the same for me. Threads must not be allowed.

This is like saying "my email provider should block all emails from Gmail".

And they can hoover your data right now. Like, you think bots aren't spidering the site already? It's a public website.

People who keep touting the point that defederating from Meta means we are cutting people off from fediverse are picturing this situation wrong. Based on what I've read, people see this little island of people compared to the mainland where there will be physical barrier because shouldnt tear down the bridge.

But the net isnt like that. People have just as much freedom creating a Threads account as they do a Lemmy or Mastodon account.

And don't say that the fediverse is too difficult to understand for the average person. That kind of rhetoric is what will push people away.

Everyone needs to be patient with growth. It's not going to happen in a year just like it took years for reddit to grow. I do believe that more and more people will be interested in the fediverse once they realize that corporate oversight is non existent here. And that can only happen if we keep the major instances disconnected from Meta or any for profit company.

If meta wants to data farm lemmy, what's to stop them from hosting a 1 user instance, being federated with lemmy, and....? Profit?

I'm not worried about information going that way, it's an open source deal, information is already going that way.

As for getting more content from another instance? I'm not against it, as long as it's regulated, and at risk of defederation if it gets out of hand

What data is Facebook "hoovering up" through federation that they don't already have access to?

I have asked this question a dozen times and no one can ever give me a legitimate answer.

Any admins of Lemmy.world reading this? Can we tag them?

I thought Threads was supposed to be a competitor to twitter? I don't understand how they'd even integrate with Lemmy instances. I'm here to see posts from boards/forums/subs, not from specific people. Would posts from random Threads user profiles start showing up on the main page?

Fuck anything and everything about Meta. Don't let them near this.

Threads will kill the Fediverse and chuds welcome it with open arms.

I am in agreement on this one.

I will absolutely change instances to one which has defederated from FB.

What public info could they gather? My IP?

I'm not worried about Threads joining the fediverse. They can't even properly implement hashtags and trending topics, which already puts them far behind Mastodon and X.

Also, how would users on a microblogging platform be able to interact with a Lemmy instance? I'm a bit confused about how ActivityPub works in that respect.

The 'they can farm our data' argument is a bit moot when Lemmy is already publicly accessible, and it makes us no better than Spez if we are trying to combat people for 'data scraping"