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[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago (3 children)

What are all those little tubes (bottles?) on his robe?

[–] [email protected] 72 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

They are tubes of measured gunpowder for muzzle loaders.

Edit: the tubes themselves are called gazyrs

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Looks like they were used to hold bullets and premeasured powder. But they kind of just became a style.

https://www.rbth.com/lifestyle/332920-gazyr-cherkeska-cossack-caucasian-dress

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Thanks for the link

Love the third picture down, with the lot cigarette waving around it Hopefully just a trend by then.

[–] HootinNHollerin 3 points 8 months ago

Hourly shot of vodka /s

[–] independantiste 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

The quality you can get with film never ceases to amaze me. I think the Oppenheimer movie poster was shot on film then scanned digitally, and the final image is like 11k pixels wide. There was also a 1980's music clip I saw the other day on YouTube that was labelled as remastered in 4k or something, and it looked great for a remaster. Turns out it was simply re-scanned with modern tools and since the original film was so crisp it was all that needed to be done. No AI enhancement bullshit and all that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The band of brothers remaster was also rescanned film, it looks fantastic

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Oh crap TIL gotta rewatch.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

The ones that really grab my sight are not film but glass plates, the clarity of images that are 120 years old is unbelievable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Rescanning with modern tools is the exact definition of a remaster - Going back to the original 'master' copy and using modern techniques to produce a newer, better version :-)

[–] independantiste 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

True, I am more used to remastering in gaming when it usually means removing the piss color filter and removing the fps cap

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Fortunately, some remasters even in gaming are the same: Going back to the source, maybe fixing some bugs, and then using the highest quality assets that were available at the time but had to be scaled down to make the game make sense for the hardware of the time. Unfortunately those are few and far between.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This photo sent me down a rabbit hole. I ended up learning about the conquest of the Cacusus and the genocide that occurred during it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I got banned from reddit by linking that turkish genocide... I admit it was in a Turkish sub.. And I mentioned that turks in Europe get more kids as Europeans (which according to reddit is similar to genocide)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

He looks like he’s about 12, she looks like she’s on the verge of 105. Interesting photo

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

A man (27) and his wife (26), mother of 10

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Looks like a mother and son

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

@[email protected] do you have the source for this image? I'd love to find out more.

This version has been noticeably digitally altered, someone has used a clone or heal tool in the corners:

I assume the original photo or film must have holes or marks on it, they would be interesting to see.

I also have an (unconfirmed) suspicion that this image may have been a black and white photo that has been digitally colourised. It can't have been fully AI colourised as the flowers on the lady's dress are too perfectly coloured (even where they are hidden in folds or shadow). Alas the chroma of the flowers is shaped in perfect circles of pink, even overlapping black areas of the dress (where it's otherwise coloured slightly blue), making me suspect a round brush tool in an image editor:

I can't be 100% certain, there might be some other explanation for this chroma patterning. It's not JPEG (that quantises in square blocks, not circles). Might be some weird optical effects or multiple layers of JPEG on top of each other causing gaussian filtering (if you apply box filters repetitively at different offsets then you eventually approximate a gaussian). Not to mention that the version I downloaded is a .webp (and I have no experience with that format), I suspect Lemmy might have converted it upon upload.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Thankyou muchly :) Looking now. They have unaltered originals too!

There are 3 separate glass slides for the different colour channels. Ooh. (is it healthy to get excited about this?)

EDIT: This collage of the 3 coloured slides is itself an edited version, but it shows answers to my questions:

They edited the left side with a clone tool to hide the fact some of the coloured slides/layers are a bit faded at the edges. This also explains why the left of the image is yellowish and the bottom reddish. Perhaps those slides were like that their entire life, uneven due to manufacture or developing issues?

Across the entire image are tiny coloured blips and scratches. Most of them were edited out.

The rounded shape of the chroma on the flowers isn't as evident in this version, but it still looks blurry. It's plausible that the super-round shape in OP's version of the image is an artefact from multiple lossy image encodings POSSIBLY combined with the red channel (glass slide) having worse resolution than the other colours in these areas (?).

[–] kersploosh 3 points 8 months ago

This is the kind of quality content we need more of!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The whole of the caucaus is so interesting. Just all those cultures jam packed into one spot. Only other place I know of like it is PNG.

[–] otp 14 points 8 months ago

JPEG is close

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The Balkans are similarly diverse (despite efforts to murder everyone different since the age of the habsburgs).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Justin Timberlake confirmed time traveler

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

He's about to slay the cameraman.

Anyways great work.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Why does that man look a lot like young Atatürk. So uncanny.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

The body language between them both, tho.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

One of his eyes ain't lookin at me

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

And she has the eyes of George W. Bush

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Kickass album cover.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That woman has some man hands.

What is that little tower thing in the background?

It’s funny to me that they would take some chairs outside to sit and pose, why not just stand?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

1904 in Dagestan, did they still have the old "5min exposure" cameras?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that occurred to me. Still funny to see these chairs in these old photographs, in places which must have seemed even to them at the time as out of place.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I guess I kinda just always figure the house is just off camera, like behind the camera man or 30ft to the right. It does look silly though lol.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago

Fuck Dagestan. All my homies hate those airport terrorizing Dagestanians.